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Two passport enter and leave Singapore problem

Postby ededed3333 » Fri, 19 May 2006 3:39 pm

I have two passport (Chinese passport and Canadian Passport), I use chinese passport+Singapore visa to enter Singapore, can I use my Canadian passport to leave Singapore and go to Canada?
Or I must show both Chinese passport and Canada passport to leave Singapore and go to Canada?(Because there is a stamp on Chinese passport, not on Canadian passport)

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Postby Strong Eagle » Sun, 21 May 2006 9:33 am

You must use the passport with the immigration stamp in it to leave, otherwise the Sing authorities only see a person with no right to be in the country.

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Postby jpatokal » Sun, 21 May 2006 9:20 pm

Show your Chinese passport (only) when leaving Singapore, and show your Canadian passport (only) when entering Canada. Immigration doesn't care about your other passport.
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Postby Matney » Sun, 21 May 2006 11:17 pm

I have OZ and USA passports. I am here on the OZ, so whenever I leave or enter Singapore, I use the OZ. But when I enter & leave the USA, I use that passport. Once I forgot and used the OZ to leave the USA. I was the last one on the plane, until I realized what I had done. Silly me. :???:

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But the problem is:

Postby ededed3333 » Mon, 22 May 2006 1:10 am

But the problem is if I leave Singapore by using my chinese passport to Canada, there is not a Canadian visa on my chinese passport, whether Singapore custom will care about whether I have the suitable document to go to Canada? In this way maybe they must see my Canadian passport? Thanks

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Postby Blaze » Mon, 22 May 2006 2:04 am

It is the carrier/airline that will check (at the time of check-in) to see if you are allowed to travel to Canada. You will produce your Canadian Passport for this purpose. This is the first step.

Next, you will go through immigration with your Chinese passport. If the official does ask for any other passports, you should produce them. It is not likely though. It is common for people to possess and travel with multiple passports.

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Thanks

Postby ededed3333 » Wed, 24 May 2006 2:00 am

I check this problem just base in some countries, such as Malaysia, it is illegal to bring two passports. Malaysia is not a country that respect human rights and with a bad reputation for this.
I just want to make sure Singapore government will not seize my passports if I show them both.
Whether airline desk will ask me why I have no stamp on my Canadian passport? Thanks

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Re: Thanks

Postby jpatokal » Wed, 24 May 2006 9:07 pm

Don't worry about this -- having multiple passports is very, very common. I average over 100 flights/year and regularly use two.

ededed3333 wrote:I check this problem just base in some countries, such as Malaysia, it is illegal to bring two passports. Malaysia is not a country that respect human rights and with a bad reputation for this.

Say what? Sure, some countries don't recognize dual citizenship, but I've never heard of any country making merely owning a passport illegal, least of all when you aren't their citizen!

I just want to make sure Singapore government will not seize my passports if I show them both.

They won't, and you don't need to show them both. Immigration doesn't care where you're going, all they care about is if you're in Singapore legally.

Whether airline desk will ask me why I have no stamp on my Canadian passport?

The airline is only concerned about whether you can enter the destination country, because they need to pay for the deportation if you don't have the right papers. They don't care how you got to Singapore.
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Re: Thanks

Postby Strong Eagle » Wed, 24 May 2006 11:30 pm

ededed3333 wrote:I check this problem just base in some countries, such as Malaysia, it is illegal to bring two passports. Malaysia is not a country that respect human rights and with a bad reputation for this.
I just want to make sure Singapore government will not seize my passports if I show them both.
Whether airline desk will ask me why I have no stamp on my Canadian passport? Thanks


Lots of BS, Bud. I've got three passports. Dropped in through JB one day, handed them my British passport... wouldn't take it... wasn't stamped with a visa allowing me to be in Singapore. OK... put it back in my bag, handed them my US passport that MOM has so graciously stamped... no problem.

Simple rule... if you are travelling to your home passport country you need never worry about visas and stamps... your passport gets you in. When in a foreign... non passport country... always check in and out with the same passport.

I fly regularly between Singapore and the US. Never get a stamp in Sing because I have my EP. Never get a stamp in the US because I am a citizen. Rather simple.

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Postby riversandlakes » Thu, 25 May 2006 5:03 am

Wowee THREE passports, way to go, SE!

ededed3333 please respect yourself before deciding to disrespect foreign countries. What a blatant lie. After all a senior MY Gov official did tell YOU FOREIGNERS to "go home if you didn't like it there." http://tinyurl.com/nlytc
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Is it legal this way?

Postby ededed3333 » Mon, 29 May 2006 1:05 am

Is it legal if I travel to Singapore in this way:
1 When I enter Singapore the 1 st time from China, I show two passports(Canadian and Chinese passports), and I let the custom stamp both of them.
2 When I leave Singapore and go to Canada the 1 st time, I let the custom only stamp on my Canadian passport
3 After a few months, I enter Singapore the 2nd time from canada, I show only the Canadian passport, and the custom only stamp the Canadian passport
4 When I leave Singapore the 2nd time and go to China, I let the custom stamp on both Chinese and Canadian passport

In this way, my chinese passport has two stamps, date of the 1st when I enter Singapore and the date 2nd time when I leave Singapore, (even there are a few months or some years), but on my chinese papport, it looks like I stayed in Singapore during this period.No body knows that I have been to Canada.

Thanks, is it legal or not, will the custom stamp two times for me?

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Re: Is it legal this way?

Postby Strong Eagle » Mon, 29 May 2006 6:43 am

ededed3333 wrote:Is it legal if I travel to Singapore in this way:
1 When I enter Singapore the 1 st time from China, I show two passports(Canadian and Chinese passports), and I let the custom stamp both of them.
2 When I leave Singapore and go to Canada the 1 st time, I let the custom only stamp on my Canadian passport
3 After a few months, I enter Singapore the 2nd time from canada, I show only the Canadian passport, and the custom only stamp the Canadian passport
4 When I leave Singapore the 2nd time and go to China, I let the custom stamp on both Chinese and Canadian passport

In this way, my chinese passport has two stamps, date of the 1st when I enter Singapore and the date 2nd time when I leave Singapore, (even there are a few months or some years), but on my chinese papport, it looks like I stayed in Singapore during this period.No body knows that I have been to Canada.

Thanks, is it legal or not, will the custom stamp two times for me?


Singapore will not stamp two passports. No country will as far as I know. When you go to Canada on your Canadian passport it will not be stamped at all. The stamp is a visa granting you the right to enter a country. You don't need a visa to enter a country for which you hold a passport.

Singapore customs does not know where you are going when you leave the country

Actually, I don't see the problem you seem to think you have. Visa stamps simply let you stay in a country. If customs really wanted to know where you were, they would do a name search. Your passport is machine read in most countries in the world and they could track your movements.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 29 May 2006 10:05 am

It almost sounds like the OP has somehow acquired a Canadian Passport without the Chinese Authorities knowledge. I would assume he could not get a Visa to Canada but was only allowed to get one to go to Singapore, hence his wanting to arrive using his chinese PP w/Sing visa then go to Canada without the Chinese Authorities knowing about same.

OP, If this is not the case, why are you trying to make your life so complicated when all have told you already what you need to do? :???:

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actually

Postby ededed3333 » Mon, 29 May 2006 4:31 pm

Actually I want to keep Chinese citizenship after I got Canadian citizenship. Canada will not issue me a canadian visa after I got Canadian citizenship.
Each time when I leave China to Canada, I will apply a visa of Singapore and go from Singapore to canada, and each time I go back China, I will go from Canada to Singapore and back to China from there. Because Singapore will stamp my chinese passport each time I enter or leave Singapore, so 1st time, I enter Singapore and leave, my chinese passport has two Singapore stamps. 2nd time after some years, when I enter and leave Singapore for China, there are another two more stamps on my chinese passport. In this way, when I enter China, the custom will find a time gap on my passport, for example, I enter and leave Singapore on Jan 1 and Jan 3, 2000, I enter and leave Singapore agin on Feb 1 and Feb 3,2004, there is a 4 year gap between it. The custom will ask me where I have been in these 4 years. I need to explain where I have been maybe.
Do you guys know a country will never stamp on passport whenever I enter or leave the country? maybe it can issue some 5 year multi-entry visa and do not stamp on the passport? I cannot tell custom I have been to canada because there is not Canadian visa stamp on the passport.

Maybe the best way is to get some permanent residence from some small countries (maybe African or even south amerian countries, or some south asia countries, even some long time social visit permit is OK), so that I can just tell the custom I have been to this country.

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Re: actually

Postby Plavt » Mon, 29 May 2006 5:00 pm

ededed3333 wrote:Do you guys know a country will never stamp on passport whenever I enter or leave the country?


This never happens unless you happens unless you happen to be an EEC national or a resident of the Irish Republic travelling to the UK or vise-a-versa. (as one example)

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