ChatGPT calculates your PR Probability!

[mr.green]

I asked ChatGPT (GPT-4) to build a little scoring system for us. Rather impressive job!

Create a question answer scoring with cutoff scores and a formula to find out probability of getting approved for Singapore PR

Creating a precise scoring system or formula to determine the probability of getting approved for Singapore PR is challenging due to the discretionary nature of the approval process. However, I can provide a simple self-assessment questionnaire to help you evaluate your suitability based on some key factors. Please note that this questionnaire is for informational purposes only and is not an official assessment tool. The actual decision is made by the Singaporean authorities.

Answer each question and give yourself a score based on the provided options. Then, calculate your total score and compare it to the suggested ranges to estimate your chances.

Eligibility (choose one):
a. Employment Pass, S Pass, Entrepreneur Pass, or Personalized Employment Pass holder (10 points)
b. Spouse/child of a Singapore citizen or PR (10 points)
c. Aged parent of a Singapore citizen (5 points)
d. None of the above (0 points)

Length of stay in Singapore (choose one):
a. More than 3 years (10 points)
b. 2-3 years (7 points)
c. 1-2 years (4 points)
d. Less than 1 year (0 points)

Employment stability (choose one):
a. Employed by the Singapore government or a well-established company with a stable job history (10 points)
b. Employed by a private company with a stable job history (8 points)
c. Employed with a history of frequent job changes (4 points)
d. Currently unemployed (0 points)

Skills and qualifications (choose one):
a. Highly skilled professional in a high-demand industry (10 points)
b. Skilled professional in a moderately-demanding industry (7 points)
c. Skilled professional in a low-demand industry (4 points)
d. Limited skills or qualifications (0 points)

Integration (choose one):
a. Actively involved in community events, volunteer work, and have a good understanding of local language(s) (10 points)
b. Moderately involved in community events or volunteer work and have some understanding of local language(s) (6 points)
c. Limited involvement in community events or volunteer work and minimal understanding of local language(s) (2 points)
d. No involvement in community events, volunteer work, or understanding of local language(s) (0 points)

Family ties in Singapore (choose one):
a. Immediate family members are Singapore citizens or PRs (10 points)
b. Extended family members are Singapore citizens or PRs (5 points)
c. No family ties in Singapore (0 points)

Calculate your total score (maximum 60 points) and refer to the following ranges for an estimation of your chances:

45-60 points: Higher chance of approval
30-44 points: Moderate chance of approval
0-29 points: Lower chance of approval
Please keep in mind that this self-assessment is not an official evaluation, and the actual outcome of your PR application will depend on various factors and the discretion of the Singaporean authorities. Always consult official sources or a professional immigration advisor for the most accurate and up-to-date information.

(Not immigration advice here, just marvelling at the AI's words)

[smoulder]

Nice, but it misses 2 of the most important points with the highest weight - ethnicity and nationality.

[mr.green]

Nice, but it misses 2 of the most important points with the highest weight - ethnicity and nationality.

Agreed. I asked about this specifically, but gives a canned response about how race should not matter, we are our skills etc.

[epo_anonymous]

Nice, but it misses 2 of the most important points with the highest weight - ethnicity and nationality.

In all seriousness though it’s a very practical (if opaque) system.

[abbby]

Not too bad! Been marveling at how it can help one's work as well..

[Raffles1015]

If spouse of the applicant is a Singaporean, which option should the person select? a?

Family ties in Singapore (choose one):
a. Immediate family members are Singapore citizens or PRs (10 points)
b. Extended family members are Singapore citizens or PRs (5 points)
c. No family ties in Singapore (0 points)

[smoulder]

If spouse of the applicant is a Singaporean, which option should the person select? a?

Family ties in Singapore (choose one):
a. Immediate family members are Singapore citizens or PRs (10 points)
b. Extended family members are Singapore citizens or PRs (5 points)
c. No family ties in Singapore (0 points)

Most of the time, you'd choose FT over PTS. However, in my case for both (successful) PR and citizenship applications, I chose to submit my own application (NOT FT). The reason being that my wife was and still is trying to run a home business and at the moment her income isn't very consistent. Sometimes, it makes more sense to pick PTS over FT.

[gold.spot]

Not too bad! Been marveling at how it can help one's work as well..

Help, until it can replace. Certainly don't need assistants to do ppts or draft emails anymore.

I'm already using it to draft mundane emails. Maybe one day i will be replaced too.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Sadly in the Singapore context it is virtually worthless if it doesn't take into consideration race/ethnicity and age & fertility because we all know Singapore also uses immigration to bolster it's (in it's eyes) ideal demographic percentages and future NS needs. Good for discussion but please don't put your hopes into it. Still needs a lot of work how to factor moving goalposts into it in the SG context.

[PNGMK]

Sadly in the Singapore context it is virtually worthless if it doesn't take into consideration race/ethnicity and age & fertility because we all know Singapore also uses immigration to bolster it's (in it's eyes) ideal demographic percentages and future NS needs. Good for discussion but please don't put your hopes into it. Still needs a lot of work how to factor moving goalposts into it in the SG context.

This is the risk of putting bounds on AI systems. I just know we will see giant stuff ups which will come down to "Well, I put the answer from ChatGPT in and that should be right yes?".

[jalanjalan]

I asked ChatGPT (GPT-4) to build a little scoring system for us. Rather impressive job!

Family ties in Singapore (choose one):
a. Immediate family members are Singapore citizens or PRs (10 points)
b. Extended family members are Singapore citizens or PRs (5 points)
c. No family ties in Singapore (0 points)

Well that part's way too vague. Hello marriages of convenience...

[malcontent]

Sadly in the Singapore context it is virtually worthless if it doesn't take into consideration race/ethnicity and age & fertility because we all know Singapore also uses immigration to bolster it's (in it's eyes) ideal demographic percentages and future NS needs. Good for discussion but please don't put your hopes into it. Still needs a lot of work how to factor moving goalposts into it in the SG context.

This is the risk of putting bounds on AI systems. I just know we will see giant stuff ups which will come down to "Well, I put the answer from ChatGPT in and that should be right yes?".

Where I do see major potential for AI is in the call center space. Just a call to DBS… the stress of trying to navigate their endless cryptic menus is enough to shorten my lifespan. Imagine being able to call up and you can just utter a few words about why you are calling — and it can just take you there immediately.

Of course, when it comes to credit card annual fee waivers, they have an interest in burying that particular menu deeper than deep… and that seems to be what they do.

[Lisafuller]

I asked ChatGPT (GPT-4) to build a little scoring system for us. Rather impressive job!

Create a question answer scoring with cutoff scores and a formula to find out probability of getting approved for Singapore PR

Creating a precise scoring system or formula to determine the probability of getting approved for Singapore PR is challenging due to the discretionary nature of the approval process. However, I can provide a simple self-assessment questionnaire to help you evaluate your suitability based on some key factors. Please note that this questionnaire is for informational purposes only and is not an official assessment tool. The actual decision is made by the Singaporean authorities.

Answer each question and give yourself a score based on the provided options. Then, calculate your total score and compare it to the suggested ranges to estimate your chances.

Eligibility (choose one):
a. Employment Pass, S Pass, Entrepreneur Pass, or Personalized Employment Pass holder (10 points)
b. Spouse/child of a Singapore citizen or PR (10 points)
c. Aged parent of a Singapore citizen (5 points)
d. None of the above (0 points)

Length of stay in Singapore (choose one):
a. More than 3 years (10 points)
b. 2-3 years (7 points)
c. 1-2 years (4 points)
d. Less than 1 year (0 points)

Employment stability (choose one):
a. Employed by the Singapore government or a well-established company with a stable job history (10 points)
b. Employed by a private company with a stable job history (8 points)
c. Employed with a history of frequent job changes (4 points)
d. Currently unemployed (0 points)

Skills and qualifications (choose one):
a. Highly skilled professional in a high-demand industry (10 points)
b. Skilled professional in a moderately-demanding industry (7 points)
c. Skilled professional in a low-demand industry (4 points)
d. Limited skills or qualifications (0 points)

Integration (choose one):
a. Actively involved in community events, volunteer work, and have a good understanding of local language(s) (10 points)
b. Moderately involved in community events or volunteer work and have some understanding of local language(s) (6 points)
c. Limited involvement in community events or volunteer work and minimal understanding of local language(s) (2 points)
d. No involvement in community events, volunteer work, or understanding of local language(s) (0 points)

Family ties in Singapore (choose one):
a. Immediate family members are Singapore citizens or PRs (10 points)
b. Extended family members are Singapore citizens or PRs (5 points)
c. No family ties in Singapore (0 points)

Calculate your total score (maximum 60 points) and refer to the following ranges for an estimation of your chances:

45-60 points: Higher chance of approval
30-44 points: Moderate chance of approval
0-29 points: Lower chance of approval
Please keep in mind that this self-assessment is not an official evaluation, and the actual outcome of your PR application will depend on various factors and the discretion of the Singaporean authorities. Always consult official sources or a professional immigration advisor for the most accurate and up-to-date information.

(Not immigration advice here, just marvelling at the AI's words)

Missing a couple nuances, but wow!

[Lisafuller]

Nice, but it misses 2 of the most important points with the highest weight - ethnicity and nationality.

Yup, but still, crazy that AI could produce such a detailed, well researched response.

[Lisafuller]

Nice, but it misses 2 of the most important points with the highest weight - ethnicity and nationality.

Agreed. I asked about this specifically, but gives a canned response about how race should not matter, we are our skills etc.

Even Chat GPT is afraid of getting sued by the government