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PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by asteria » Wed, 10 May 2023 11:01 pm

Hello. New to this forum and appreciate some advice. I applied PR application for my spouse on Dec 2022 and just received rejection today :cry: . Below is my profile:

Education: Bachelor of Arts Degree from NTU
Age: 26
Marital Status: Married since Nov 2022, no children
Salary: SGD48K p.a. + Variable bonus

Spouse profile:
Ethnicity: Malaysian Chinese
Education: Private Diploma from Singapore
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Visa: S Pass in Banking industry
Salary: SGD38K p.a. + Variable bonus
Total work experience: 8 years overall (worked in Singapore since graduation)

We do volunteer work within our community from time to time as well.

Appreciate any input / advice on my case. Could rejection be due to me and or spouse income or education qualification? What are the appeal chances if visit MP or email ICA (as per their FAQ)? Or are chances low based on our situation?

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Re: PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by malcontent » Thu, 11 May 2023 2:18 am

asteria wrote:
Wed, 10 May 2023 11:01 pm
Hello. New to this forum and appreciate some advice. I applied PR application for my spouse on Dec 2022 and just received rejection today :cry: . Below is my profile:

Education: Bachelor of Arts Degree from NTU
Age: 26
Marital Status: Married since Nov 2022, no children
Salary: SGD48K p.a. + Variable bonus

Spouse profile:
Ethnicity: Malaysian Chinese
Education: Private Diploma from Singapore
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Visa: S Pass in Banking industry
Salary: SGD38K p.a. + Variable bonus
Total work experience: 8 years overall (worked in Singapore since graduation)

We do volunteer work within our community from time to time as well.

Appreciate any input / advice on my case. Could rejection be due to me and or spouse income or education qualification? What are the appeal chances if visit MP or email ICA (as per their FAQ)? Or are chances low based on our situation?
Have you considered that his salary might have something to do with it?

$38k/13 < $3k pm… that doesn’t even meet the minimum future criteria for S pass at age 23.

https://www.mom.gov.sg/passes-and-permi ... ligibility

Malaysian Chinese usually don’t need much to get approved, but it looks like you might have found the lower limit. Suggest he needs to find a better paying job or negotiate a promotion or raise. Hang in there and keep striving.
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Re: PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by x9200 » Thu, 11 May 2023 6:21 am

asteria wrote:
Wed, 10 May 2023 11:01 pm
Hello. New to this forum and appreciate some advice. I applied PR application for my spouse on Dec 2022 and just received rejection today :cry: . Below is my profile:

Education: Bachelor of Arts Degree from NTU
Age: 26
Marital Status: Married since Nov 2022, no children
Salary: SGD48K p.a. + Variable bonus

Spouse profile:
Ethnicity: Malaysian Chinese
Education: Private Diploma from Singapore
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Visa: S Pass in Banking industry
Salary: SGD38K p.a. + Variable bonus
Total work experience: 8 years overall (worked in Singapore since graduation)

We do volunteer work within our community from time to time as well.

Appreciate any input / advice on my case. Could rejection be due to me and or spouse income or education qualification? What are the appeal chances if visit MP or email ICA (as per their FAQ)? Or are chances low based on our situation?
You are married for a very short time. Wait till you pass the 2y mark and reapply. Try to improve your income in the meantime.
Read other posts on this forum concerning passes for spouses (PR and other allowing to work) to understand what impacts the chances as you clearly have not done it (volunteering, MP etc.).

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Re: PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by MOCHS » Thu, 11 May 2023 6:26 am

You just got married, of course the application will get rejected because it is seen as a marriage of convenience aka marry just for PR.

Just be patient and wait for 2 years of marriage before re-applying.

Volunteering, appeal & MP letters are useless. Do not bother with that.

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Re: PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by asteria » Thu, 11 May 2023 7:53 am

I see, thank you very much for the advice! Have noted of the pointers and will keep trying 💪🏻

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Re: PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by asteria » Thu, 11 May 2023 10:10 am

I see, thank you all for your valuable advice. It is really helpful! Do you suggest that my spouse applies for LTVP during these 2 years before reapplying for PR? Or his S Pass would suffice?

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Post by MOCHS » Thu, 11 May 2023 12:30 pm

Up to him. He can stay on S-pass until his company is unable to continue keeping him on S-pass. Then just apply LTVP & PLOC for him.

Usually LTVP & PLOC don’t have levy & foreigner quota and his company would be happy with that. But if the company HR not aware, just maintain status quo.

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Re: PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by asteria » Thu, 11 May 2023 11:53 pm

MOCHS wrote:
Thu, 11 May 2023 12:30 pm
Up to him. He can stay on S-pass until his company is unable to continue keeping him on S-pass. Then just apply LTVP & PLOC for him.

Usually LTVP & PLOC don’t have levy & foreigner quota and his company would be happy with that. But if the company HR not aware, just maintain status quo.

I think this is ideal. Thank you for your help and advice!!

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Re: PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by malcontent » Fri, 12 May 2023 12:06 am

asteria wrote:
Thu, 11 May 2023 11:53 pm
MOCHS wrote:
Thu, 11 May 2023 12:30 pm
Up to him. He can stay on S-pass until his company is unable to continue keeping him on S-pass. Then just apply LTVP & PLOC for him.

Usually LTVP & PLOC don’t have levy & foreigner quota and his company would be happy with that. But if the company HR not aware, just maintain status quo.

I think this is ideal. Thank you for your help and advice!!
Just be careful, you don’t want to enable the company to take advantage of him. I’m sure they would be more than happy to avoid the levy AND pay him below market wage. Being on Spass could force them to increase his salary to at least meet the MOM minimums. I would hesitate to jump to LTVP too quickly, unless he can truly use it to his advantage. In Singapore you need to be a bit kiasu.
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Re: PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by x9200 » Fri, 12 May 2023 5:58 am

Also, being Malaysian-Chinese, if he manages to stay on s-pass a bit longer, he has a good chance to get the PR on his own. I believe we've seen such cases even with very low salary. Not the case if he is on LTVP.

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Re: PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by clavie » Fri, 12 May 2023 5:33 pm

1/ I also believe the rush to apply PR 1 month after being married was detrimental, too short period.

2/ You didn't mention whether you are SC or SPR.
I know people (late 40s SC ) who got PR for their spouse (chinese etchnic) after 1 year of marriage BUT the applicant must have enough resources because you are the financial sponsor.

3/ If they consider your spouse becomes out of work, as sponsor, your salary is a little low (from their perspective)
I think if you can bump up your income, in 2 years time your new application should have much higher probability.

4/ And as for your spouse being on S-Pass, this costs money to companies. If he is on LTVP+pre-approved LoC he might have better opportunities to sell himself to other companies in the banking industry for a higher salary and better career advancement, AND an LTVP does not impact the foreign quota of the company, it's neutral, better than S-Pass.

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Re: PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by asteria » Tue, 16 May 2023 12:25 am

malcontent wrote:
Fri, 12 May 2023 12:06 am
asteria wrote:
Thu, 11 May 2023 11:53 pm
MOCHS wrote:
Thu, 11 May 2023 12:30 pm
Up to him. He can stay on S-pass until his company is unable to continue keeping him on S-pass. Then just apply LTVP & PLOC for him.

Usually LTVP & PLOC don’t have levy & foreigner quota and his company would be happy with that. But if the company HR not aware, just maintain status quo.

I think this is ideal. Thank you for your help and advice!!
Just be careful, you don’t want to enable the company to take advantage of him. I’m sure they would be more than happy to avoid the levy AND pay him below market wage. Being on Spass could force them to increase his salary to at least meet the MOM minimums. I would hesitate to jump to LTVP too quickly, unless he can truly use it to his advantage. In Singapore you need to be a bit kiasu.
I’ve never thought of it this way! This makes sense to me! Thanks so much!

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Re: PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by asteria » Tue, 16 May 2023 12:26 am

x9200 wrote:
Fri, 12 May 2023 5:58 am
Also, being Malaysian-Chinese, if he manages to stay on s-pass a bit longer, he has a good chance to get the PR on his own. I believe we've seen such cases even with very low salary. Not the case if he is on LTVP.
I think that’s the next best alternative, thanks for the advice!!

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Re: PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by asteria » Tue, 16 May 2023 12:28 am

clavie wrote:
Fri, 12 May 2023 5:33 pm
1/ I also believe the rush to apply PR 1 month after being married was detrimental, too short period.

2/ You didn't mention whether you are SC or SPR.
I know people (late 40s SC ) who got PR for their spouse (chinese etchnic) after 1 year of marriage BUT the applicant must have enough resources because you are the financial sponsor.

3/ If they consider your spouse becomes out of work, as sponsor, your salary is a little low (from their perspective)
I think if you can bump up your income, in 2 years time your new application should have much higher probability.

4/ And as for your spouse being on S-Pass, this costs money to companies. If he is on LTVP+pre-approved LoC he might have better opportunities to sell himself to other companies in the banking industry for a higher salary and better career advancement, AND an LTVP does not impact the foreign quota of the company, it's neutral, better than S-Pass.
Unfortunately, that’s true since we were rejected shortly after application. I am a SC, then I’ll have to try and up my income by the next application as sponsor… thank you so much for the info and advice!

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Re: PR Unsuccessful - Spouse Scheme

Post by Raffles1015 » Tue, 16 May 2023 8:14 am

Like you, I also applied for PR for my spouse shortly after marriage and got rejected after 7 months, appealed through MP and was rejected a second time. Due to changes in the family nucleus, we are now applying. I have been waiting for 7 months and the status is still pending.

Myself:
Nationality: Singaporean
Age: 42
Marital Status: Married since March 2021, 1 7-months baby
Salary: SGD60K p.a.

Spouse profile:
Nationality: Vietnamese
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Visa: LTVP+
Salary: SGD30K p.a.

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