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Postby movingtospore » Sun, 02 Mar 2014 9:32 pm

I am having flashbacks to my youth in the USSR/cold war days. Oy vey. Down Putin, down. This is not good.

I expect the Russians are most concerns about all their pipelines passing through the area?

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Postby Sergei82 » Sun, 02 Mar 2014 9:37 pm

And EU is concerned with Russian cutting the gas for them in case they respond.

And also I saw in Ukrainian news website that Japan is considering annexing Kuril islands from Russia in pretty much the same way as Russia is doing with Crimean peninsula in Ukraine (protecting ethnic Japanese!), should Putin create precedent. I'm not sure how reliable this information is, or it can be just disinformation.

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Postby Wd40 » Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:50 pm

http://world.time.com/2014/03/01/many-u ... to-invade/

According to this article many Ukrainians want Russia to Invade Ukraine. Interesting! Looks like only Obama has a problem with this and not so much the Ukrainians.

Another article that states that Obama and the west can do nothing about this, so no world war 3:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... ing.2.html

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Postby Sergei82 » Mon, 03 Mar 2014 7:33 am

Wd40 wrote:...many Ukrainians want Russia to Invade Ukraine.

We don't join Malaysia with China only because there are many ethnic Chinese in Malaysia.[/quote]

Wd40 wrote:Another article...

Which feels more like pro-Russian. Lets see if EU wants Russian military enclave under their nose. The thins that they can violate all their treaties and do nothing about Ukriane is a fact.

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Postby Sergei82 » Mon, 03 Mar 2014 1:35 pm


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Postby Wd40 » Mon, 03 Mar 2014 1:40 pm

Sergei seems to be a common name in both Ukraine and Russia. Already saw that name in 2 articles one from Russia side and one from Ukraine side :)

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Postby Sergei82 » Mon, 03 Mar 2014 1:43 pm

Wd40 wrote:Sergei seems to be a common name in both Ukraine and Russia. Already saw that name in 2 articles one from Russia side and one from Ukraine side :)

Common name in all former USSR and other Slavic countries around, including Balkans.

Here btw - interesting one:
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2014/03/sifting-through-chaos-crimea-20143220127515732.html
Sifting through the chaos of Crimea

I always like when they mention "Donetsk-style" politics. Makes me recall why I left my city for good in the first place. :mrgreen:

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Postby Sergei82 » Tue, 04 Mar 2014 7:25 am

Justification for Ukrainian police force during the unrest in Kiev. This video gets reposted by people and deleted by authorities many times, so hurry up while its still there.

Maidan. Inconvenient truth : shooting in the back
http://rutube.ru/video/93802748ac84d98b69294da71162d03f/

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Postby Wd40 » Fri, 07 Mar 2014 9:49 am

A very interesting point!

[quote]Obama’s failure to follow through on threats of military strikes against Syria’s Bashar al-Assad—and his eagerness to sign on to a Putin-devised plan for removing Syria’s chemical-weapons arsenal—emboldened the Russians to launch their offensive in Crimea. “My read on Putin is that he’s an opportunist who takes advantage of weakness,”

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Postby Barnsley » Fri, 07 Mar 2014 10:02 am

Sergei will you still be Ukranian after all this plays out?

Or will you become a Russian?

Its all very puzzling for someone outside looking in. :shock:
Life is short, paddle harder!!

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Postby Wd40 » Fri, 07 Mar 2014 10:54 am

If he is ethinic Ukrainian, he will always remain Ukrainian, except that Ukraine could become a state of Russia and he might have to exchange his passport for a Russian one.

I suddenly remember Tom Hank's movie, Terminal

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Postby Sergei82 » Fri, 07 Mar 2014 11:05 am

Does it suppose to mean that you two presumed Ukraine will definitely become a part of Russia?

And no, Wd40, I am ethnic Russian. But my country is Ukraine. And I desperately wish Putin to 4UCK OFF! And if needed, I am ready to give up my life in Singapore, go to Ukraine and fight for it.

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Postby x9200 » Fri, 07 Mar 2014 11:25 am

7 years of preparation for the Sochi Olimpic Games to boost the image of Russia internationally, and less than 7 days to ruin it all beyond any repair for the coming decade or longer all because of one overamitious man with homo sovieticus mentality.

Really sad to see that despite of all what happened in SU in the 80's and in and after 1989 nothing trully changed in Russia.

I hope Ukraine will be fine with or without Crimea.

WD40, is this also your view of Singapore's ethinc minorities?

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Postby Wd40 » Fri, 07 Mar 2014 11:33 am

Sergei82 wrote:Does it suppose to mean that you two presumed Ukraine will definitely become a part of Russia?
And no, Wd40, I am ethnic Russian. But my country is Ukraine. And I desperately wish Putin to 4UCK OFF! And if needed, I am ready to give up my life in Singapore, go to Ukraine and fight for it.


No, I have used the words "could" and "might"

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Postby Wd40 » Fri, 07 Mar 2014 11:35 am

x9200 wrote:7 years of preparation for the Sochi Olimpic Games to boost the image of Russia internationally, and less than 7 days to ruin it all beyond any repair for the coming decade or longer all because of one overamitious man with homo sovieticus mentality.

Really sad to see that despite of all what happened in SU in the 80's and in and after 1989 nothing trully changed in Russia.

I hope Ukraine will be fine with or without Crimea.

WD40, is this also your view of Singapore's ethinc minorities?


What view? Singapore already has 4 languages and 3 races and they have their identity. Thats my view about Ukrainians if it were to join Russia.


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