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Postby Sergei82 » Sat, 29 Mar 2014 9:38 pm

PNGMK wrote:
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PNGMK wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26769481

A useful article on Putin's objectives... I don't quite agree with the idea that Putin didn't understand why the USSR collapsed - I suspect he did or does.

I have a lot of admiration for him.

Are you thrilled of the thought that the dwarf can revive USSR?


Absolutely. I work for a company that is a large part of the Military Industrial complex.

I forgot you are working with gas. Your point of view can be very biased. :mrgreen:

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Postby Sergei82 » Mon, 31 Mar 2014 1:00 pm

http://rt.com/news/ukraine-presidential-candidates-bids-197/

From Chocolate King to Darth Vader: Ukrainian presidential hopefuls submit bids

The most peculiar name on the list is Darth Vader. The Sith Lord has been nominated by the Internet party of Ukraine. Vader promises to build the Death Star to protect Ukraine’s borders, make Sith the second official language and raise salaries to cosmic levels.

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Postby Brah » Mon, 31 Mar 2014 10:05 pm

Whatever happens, hope your family and friends will be ok

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Postby Barnsley » Tue, 08 Apr 2014 9:44 pm

Oh dear , this doesnt look like its going to end well for anybody.
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Postby Sergei82 » Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:08 pm

Yup. Phase #2 started!

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Postby Sergei82 » Wed, 09 Apr 2014 1:10 pm

For those who think those boneheaded looneys rallying in the East of Ukraine are locals who desire to be with Russia, here:

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/protesters-storm-kharkiv-theater-thinking-it-was-city-hall/497709.html

Protesters Storm Kharkiv Theater Thinking It Was City Hall


If I were the authorities, I'd have given them city circus building for doing their referendum and federalization, and kept the rest of Ukraine clear.

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Postby Sergei82 » Fri, 11 Apr 2014 10:20 am

Russian MPs call for Mikhail Gorbachev to be prosecuted for 'allowing' the collapse of the Soviet Union

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2601490/Russian-MPs-call-Mikhail-Gorbachev-prosecuted-allowing-collapse-Soviet-Union.html

The group has petitioned Russian prosecutor general Yury Chaika with a view to criminal cases against those responsible for allowing the Baltic States of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia to secure independence and the later break-up of the remaining republics of the USSR.
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The legal probe was needed to 'draw the right historic and political picture which would let us make straight conclusions. And after all, it would encourage national liberation movements in former Soviet territories.'
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The latest move appears to be inspired by Putin's view that 'the collapse of the Soviet Union was a major geopolitical disaster of the century. As for the Russian nation, it became a genuine drama.


I am amazed how easy an outright insane person managed to become a "great" Russian leader!

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Postby Sergei82 » Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:10 pm

Avalanche of news since morning. Every town in my region has some administrative building or airport or main hospital or something captured. Parents on the phone say in Donetsk they noticed at least 5 hot spots: main library building, city square, parliament building, SBU building... and for some reason Donetsk Railroad corp hospital building are captured, all trees are chopped down, walls made of tires and barbwire, lots of rubbish around, it is very hard to commute to work. Some people are caught in the streets by people and masks and asked "who do you support". It is not a good idea to openly say you support Ukraine as a country, because hostage situation becomes increasingly common. There is not a huge lot of those separatists, but they are extremely violent. They work in groups of 30-60 per building swiftly capturing them one by one. Police is not doing much by far - no clear instructions from Kiev (mister Ban Ki-moon still reiterates like robot: solution through dialog solution through dialog).

Food prices are up, some shops are closing. A lot of weapons on hands in those militants (only Russian army is equipped with these types of weapons). New weapon supplies are delivered to Ukrainian borders by Russia daily (supposedly - military drill, nothing to do with Ukraine). Dozens of Russians intelligence officers are captured in Ukraine from those "local militants"...

Anyway, I could go on, but it looks like by April 17 (Russia-Ukraine-US-EU dialog) Russia will try to destabilize Eastern Ukraine as much as possible to "show" world that Ukraine is out of control and "needs help" of Russia to handle the situation.

Also as mother says - none of working class citizens (including coal miners community) supports joining Russia. For other marginals the standard pricing for participation is USD $500 per attack on an administrative building or another strategically important object.

Ukraine says it launched 'anti-terrorist operation' in eastern city
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/13/world/eur ... ne-crisis/

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Postby Sergei82 » Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:18 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/12/pro-russian-protesters-wind-up-tension-in-eastern-ukraine

John Kerry expressed strong concern. I guess, Obama and Kerry think if they shower Russians with strong concerns, Russians will be petrified and thousands of Kalashnikovs will disappear from the arms of militants.

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Postby Sergei82 » Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:44 pm

Here is pro-Russian news:

http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-violence-slavyansk-240/

Poor local self-defense was attacked by neo-nazis called "Right Sector" together with Ukrainian special forces.

For those who is not in business: there is such a Right Sector in Ukraine, but in a very small numbers in the West of Ukraine. It virtually does not exist anywhere else in Ukraine and of course there are no neo-nazis in any noticeable quantities anywhere around in troubled regions (unlike Moscow which is full of nazi and skinhead youngster mobs). Moreover, the Right Sector itself currently falls under suspicion as a tool created by Moscow to have a reason to invade Ukraine.

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Postby PNGMK » Mon, 14 Apr 2014 8:47 pm

Thanks for the 'local' POV Sergei.

I think Putin has mucked up...

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Postby Sergei82 » Tue, 15 Apr 2014 10:02 am

PNGMK wrote:Thanks for the 'local' POV Sergei.

I think Putin has mucked up...

I think now you clearly understand why a couple years ago we had an argument here on forum when you called me Russian.

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Postby Sergei82 » Tue, 15 Apr 2014 10:12 am

"Good" (?) and very fresh news (can't find English articles online yet - only Russian and Ukrainian) - 10 Russian militants were shot dead on their block-post in Donetsk. 3 unidentified men approached them in a car and using machine guns point blank executed every one of them. After that they just left in their car. 1st indication that Donetsk is NOT Crimea. I bet, Putin does not expect that!

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Postby Barnsley » Tue, 15 Apr 2014 11:04 am

Sergei82 wrote:"Good" (?) and very fresh news (can't find English articles online yet - only Russian and Ukrainian) - 10 Russian militants were shot dead on their block-post in Donetsk. 3 unidentified men approached them in a car and using machine guns point blank executed every one of them. After that they just left in their car. 1st indication that Donetsk is NOT Crimea. I bet, Putin does not expect that!


Do you think this is going to end it a full on war, as in official troops , or will this plain clothed war continue as the norm?
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Postby Sergei82 » Tue, 15 Apr 2014 11:19 am

Barnsley wrote:
Sergei82 wrote:"Good" (?) and very fresh news (can't find English articles online yet - only Russian and Ukrainian) - 10 Russian militants were shot dead on their block-post in Donetsk. 3 unidentified men approached them in a car and using machine guns point blank executed every one of them. After that they just left in their car. 1st indication that Donetsk is NOT Crimea. I bet, Putin does not expect that!


Do you think this is going to end it a full on war, as in official troops , or will this plain clothed war continue as the norm?

I dun expect anything. Obviously the whole world was not prepared to face someone who will outright deny reality like Putin. Nobody knows how to deal with it.

I know for sure: the whole middle and working class in Donetsk region is against joining any other country and also can't make sense out of calling for referendum and federalisation and waving Russian flag at the same time (???). More logical was pretend they "wanted" referendum, didn't get it, now they want Russia, but it started like a soup of some incoherent nonsensical demands. Those who support Russia are:
1) jobless and marginals (past criminals etc) - they get paid,
2) old people who lived for long in USSR, doesn't like current Ukrainian economy, think that Russia will solve all their problems - they're promised much higher pensions if they join Russia,
3) some Ukrainian police (aside from patriots) - Russia is a highly militarised country (despite their calling Ukrainian interim government to be military junta?), average salary for a soldier or a police officer is abt 4 times higher than in Ukraine + expenses for army in Russia 100 bln usd a year against hardly 1 bln usd a year in Ukraine (nobody in Ukraine ever believed anything threatens the country),
4) non locals: Russian soldiers and intelligence officers under cover (even though they do not hide it anymore - only official Russian position in UN is denial), some other Russian "tourists" influenced by Russian propaganda, and MOST violent (!!!): Russian cossacks! Last once can be recognized by funny hat made of sheep - they do not consider Ukraine to exist at all, Ukraine to be a nation, Ukrainian language to be a separate language (dialect of uneducated Russian peasants). Cossacks are totally out of control of anybody - they wreaked havoc in Crimea, they've arrived in Donetsk now.


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