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Postby bgd » Tue, 14 Jan 2014 5:29 pm

The Mexican discussion led me here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... icide_rate

There are a few surprises in the intentional homicide rate…

• HK has a lower rate than Singapore.
• Malaysia and Syria are on a par just behind Afghanistan but all 3 have a lower rate than Liechtenstein
• Mexico doesn’t even make the top 20

Statistics! :)

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Postby x9200 » Tue, 14 Jan 2014 8:30 pm

Mexikaner wrote:I think the fact that Mexico is No. 7 in this list is quite accurate. Could easily be in a higher position...

Did you know that there are over one million US americans living in Mexico???
Just google: San Miguel de Allende, Cuernavaca or Puerto Vallarta...


What's their ethnicity?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 14 Jan 2014 8:57 pm

x9200 wrote:
Mexikaner wrote:I think the fact that Mexico is No. 7 in this list is quite accurate. Could easily be in a higher position...

Did you know that there are over one million US americans living in Mexico???
Just google: San Miguel de Allende, Cuernavaca or Puerto Vallarta...


What's their ethnicity?


Good point!

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Postby zzm9980 » Tue, 14 Jan 2014 9:24 pm

Mexikaner wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:Respondents feel safer in Mexico than Malaysia, the same mexico where finding 50 headless corpses hanging from a highway viaduct is just another Tuesday morning..


This was an isolated event that happened in a border city with the US. Please do not generalize by saying that finding hanging dead bodies in Mexico is "just another Tuesday morning" for an ordinary citizen.

Comments like yours give a bad reputation to my country.


Really? My comments give your country a bad reputation, not the numerous murders and violent crimes?

Ok, I'll amend my comment. Not all dead bodies are hanging. But finding decapitated bodies would be "just another tuesday morning". Just google about this to find dozens or more stories. If you have a strong stomach, go to "bestgore.com" and search for "mexico". I don't recommend watching the videos, but you can see just the titles of each and the dates. There are tons of horrendous crimes just on the first page of results, and these are the ones where videos of the crimes made it on to the Internet. How many more happen without the videos going online? heh.

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Postby PNGMK » Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:12 pm

Back to the topic....

I've met several couples over the years here and there who are convinced they've found the perfect retirement spot. They then spend all their dosh doing up some palace... only to ask me a decade later - "would you like to buy it? We're too far away from the kids/family/socialised medical care in Sri Lanka/Thailand/Spain".

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Postby Beeroclock » Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:57 pm

PNGMK wrote:Back to the topic....

I've met several couples over the years here and there who are convinced they've found the perfect retirement spot. They then spend all their dosh doing up some palace... only to ask me a decade later - "would you like to buy it? We're too far away from the kids/family/socialised medical care in Sri Lanka/Thailand/Spain".
so perhaps the best place to retire is the same place where you spent the rest of your life?

I think for many retirement is a huge adjustment and potentially an epic anticlimax, like NYE x10. In the sense you work for 40+ yrs to earn the right to a twilight period of bliss playing golf etc etc, but then you get bored after a few months and find the things you thought would make you happy actually don't, and even worse you start to miss the daily dross that you used to complain about all the time....

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Postby Mexikaner » Wed, 15 Jan 2014 8:11 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
x9200 wrote:
Mexikaner wrote:I think the fact that Mexico is No. 7 in this list is quite accurate. Could easily be in a higher position...

Did you know that there are over one million US americans living in Mexico???
Just google: San Miguel de Allende, Cuernavaca or Puerto Vallarta...


What's their ethnicity?


Good point!


Indeed...
well, if you're implying that most of them are Mexican-American, well they're mainly just going back home, right?
but honestly, growing up in my home town, close to Puerto Vallarta, I'd see more and more 'white' US-americans...
(it is quite easy to tell when they're not just tourists)

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Postby Max Headroom » Wed, 15 Jan 2014 8:22 am

The answer is: don't retire. At least not 100%. Make sure you have some money-spinner gig that isn't necessarily do-or-die, yet gives you enough incentive to keep you buzzed a few hours every day.

Plenty if things you can do online for a couple of hours that keep your brain revved, after which you head off for the links or go fishing or surfing or (for JR8) lawn bowling.

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Postby Mexikaner » Wed, 15 Jan 2014 8:23 am

zzm9980 wrote:
Mexikaner wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:Respondents feel safer in Mexico than Malaysia, the same mexico where finding 50 headless corpses hanging from a highway viaduct is just another Tuesday morning..


This was an isolated event that happened in a border city with the US. Please do not generalize by saying that finding hanging dead bodies in Mexico is "just another Tuesday morning" for an ordinary citizen.

Comments like yours give a bad reputation to my country.


Really? My comments give your country a bad reputation, not the numerous murders and violent crimes?

Ok, I'll amend my comment. Not all dead bodies are hanging. But finding decapitated bodies would be "just another tuesday morning". Just google about this to find dozens or more stories. If you have a strong stomach, go to "bestgore.com" and search for "mexico". I don't recommend watching the videos, but you can see just the titles of each and the dates. There are tons of horrendous crimes just on the first page of results, and these are the ones where videos of the crimes made it on to the Internet. How many more happen without the videos going online? heh.


Ha ha ha, ok ok, you win...if you read my other comment, I admit that there have been close to 100,000 killings since 2006. Not trying to hide that. But this is what I mean...if people like to see or hear about this kind of stuff (like you do apparently) then let them find it on their own. Why the need to inform the people on this forum about this dark side of the drug situation currently in Mexico?
This is happening mainly close to the US border...
I was in Mexico for the holidays with my Malaysian wife, and her opinion after the trip was: "I felt safer in Mexico than I do in my own country". And we were in Mexico City for a few days as well...
Just hope that people, at least in this forum, can see the other side of the coin...

M.

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Postby x9200 » Wed, 15 Jan 2014 8:31 am

Mexikaner wrote:well, if you're implying that most of them are Mexican-American, well they're mainly just going back home, right?
but honestly, growing up in my home town, close to Puerto Vallarta, I'd see more and more 'white' US-americans...
(it is quite easy to tell when they're not just tourists)


That may be but according to Wikipedia you have 16% (~20mil) gringos or alike in your population anyway and there is over 30mil of American-Mexican in the States so in the context of this discussion its rather weak supportive argument. Probably some more concrete ethnical retirees data would be needed.

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Postby Mexikaner » Wed, 15 Jan 2014 8:38 am

x9200 wrote:
Mexikaner wrote:well, if you're implying that most of them are Mexican-American, well they're mainly just going back home, right?
but honestly, growing up in my home town, close to Puerto Vallarta, I'd see more and more 'white' US-americans...
(it is quite easy to tell when they're not just tourists)


That may be but according to Wikipedia you have 16% (~20mil) gringos or alike in your population anyway and there is over 30mil of American-Mexican in the States so in the context of this discussion its rather weak supportive argument. Probably some more concrete ethnical retirees data would be needed.


Point is that regardless their ethnicity, these US-americans considered Mexico a safe place to spend their remaining years...
Frankly speaking, it is very nice having them in Mexico. They do a lot for the community they live in, and many times they care more about the country than many other Mexicans...

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Postby the lynx » Wed, 15 Jan 2014 8:39 am

Oh boy, did I not witness the parallelism in this discussion/argument?

Singapore versus Malaysia and USA versus Mexico

:cool:

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 15 Jan 2014 8:57 am

Mexikaner wrote:but honestly, growing up in my home town, close to Puerto Vallarta, I'd see more and more 'white' US-americans...
(it is quite easy to tell when they're not just tourists)


That's a very popular and well-known resort town amongst Americans. You should know that. It's not typical of a Mexican city, anymore than Cancun is a typical Mexican city.

My point with Mexico, and you helped make it by admitting, is Mexico actually has 100k murders since 2006. Compared to Malaysia, where by listening to Singaporeans you'd think there are similar numbers, but there really isn't anything remotely close by orders of magnitude.

I've visited Mexico, and will continue to do so. I don't feel as if my life is in danger there, but I am definitely more vigilant and would avoid many areas, especially if without a local.

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 15 Jan 2014 9:00 am

the lynx wrote:Oh boy, did I not witness the parallelism in this discussion/argument?

Singapore versus Malaysia and USA versus Mexico

:cool:


A better analogy would be Singapore vs PRC or India, in regards to the "DEY TOOK ARR JOBS!!" :)

And living here, I feel Batam is more like Singapore's Tijuana than JB.

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Postby Beeroclock » Wed, 15 Jan 2014 9:12 am

Max Headroom wrote:The answer is: don't retire. At least not 100%. Make sure you have some money-spinner gig that isn't necessarily do-or-die, yet gives you enough incentive to keep you buzzed a few hours every day.

Plenty if things you can do online for a couple of hours that keep your brain revved, after which you head off for the links or go fishing or surfing or (for JR8) lawn bowling.
agree!


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