...and get their crime issues sorted.earthfriendly wrote:It is very attractive for me. They have a good program for retirees (MM2H), affordable standard of living, good infrastructure and I will be close to family. Nice warm weather year round and friendly locals. Would be great if they build a public transit to Singapore.
This seems silly to me; I've yet to see any reasonable statistics to show that Malaysia actually has higher crime or it's riskier to be there than most other developed countries/[countries that aren't Singapore]. It seems to be a combination of 'perception of most crime by its neighbors' and 'most blur neighbors that often visit and make themselves crime victims'.Max Headroom wrote:...and get their crime issues sorted.earthfriendly wrote:It is very attractive for me. They have a good program for retirees (MM2H), affordable standard of living, good infrastructure and I will be close to family. Nice warm weather year round and friendly locals. Would be great if they build a public transit to Singapore.
Malaysia is nice in a lot of ways and it seems poised for a great future too. But they have to reign in their crime. Period.
I think you're pretty close on this one, ZZM. Whenever you mention Malaysia around here people all start making faces and going on about how dangerous it is, blah blah blah. BS, I say.zzm9980 wrote: This seems silly to me; I've yet to see any reasonable statistics to show that Malaysia actually has higher crime or it's riskier to be there than most other developed countries/[countries that aren't Singapore]. It seems to be a combination of 'perception of most crime by its neighbors' and 'most blur neighbors that often visit and make themselves crime victims'.
'Dangerous enough' is highly subjective though. Real per-capita crime rates would be nice, and I can't find any types of stats like that for Malaysia. The most I found was something on "Numbeo", the site we all use for CoL comparisons. But then if you read how they calculate their stats, it's all based on 'how worried those surveyed feel' about particular catagories. Respondents feel safer in Mexico than Malaysia, the same mexico where finding 50 headless corpses hanging from a highway viaduct is just another Tuesday morning.the lynx wrote:Malaysia is dangerous enough. Especially in city areas like KL and JB. But just like other cities in the world, if you make yourself an easy prey, an easy prey you will be.
Look at the bright side, in Malaysia, you don't get much gun-related crimes but you do get a lot of blade-related ones.
It is a little challenging to find trusted numbers about crime in Malaysia. While googling sites, I'd see some that have titles about "Why is violent crime so high in Malaysia?" only to read someone's personal opinions totally fact-free. I like the numbeo site for a chuckle. No info on who was posting their "data" on the site, but they show a large paranoia. Maybe it's all red-dotters adding their "facts" to the database. LOLzzm9980 wrote: 'Dangerous enough' is highly subjective though. Real per-capita crime rates would be nice, and I can't find any types of stats like that for Malaysia. The most I found was something on "Numbeo", the site we all use for CoL comparisons. But then if you read how they calculate their stats, it's all based on 'how worried those surveyed feel' about particular catagories. Respondents feel safer in Mexico than Malaysia, the same mexico where finding 50 headless corpses hanging from a highway viaduct is just another Tuesday morning.
I still maintain it's just local Chinese gossip-culture, myopic views comparing it to Singapore, and blur-like-sotong lack of street smarts allowing themselves to BE the victims when they do go to Malaysia and have someone wave a switch blade in front of them for the 5" Hello-kitty jewel encrusted smart phone they were staring at while walking down a dark alley.
That’s certainly the message I get from Singaporeans. Many I’ve met won’t go near the place and are surprised anyone returns alive.the lynx wrote:Malaysia is dangerous enough. Especially in city areas like KL and JB. But just like other cities in the world, if you make yourself an easy prey, an easy prey you will be.
Look at the bright side, in Malaysia, you don't get much gun-related crimes but you do get a lot of blade-related ones.
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