Applying for PR Tomorrow

[Manoj.K]

Hi Guys,

I know it's probably too late to ask but better to ask than be left pondering what if I had.....

So here goes:

- Family of 4 applying for PR
- Husband (yeah! Me, aged 37)+ Wife (yeah! My better half, aged 40)
+ 2 boys (12 & 6, studying in local schools)
- Indians ( Yeah nationalistic but not jingo )
- Both husband & wife are post graduates (I have a Masters in Marketing from UCD, Ireland & she has a Masters in InfoTech from KSOU, India)
- 3 years (taxes filed for 2, pay slips for 2013 as this years taxes not processed)
- I have been on P1 for the first 1.5 years, PEP for the remaining 1.5
- Currently work as Product Marketing Manager for an MNC (under EDB Sponsorship) taking care of our South Asia markets
- Total Experience 16+ years, 7 years with current company
- Spend time regularly at CC, Doing a lot of social service (no - not because of the most obviously thought of reason, I love it!)
- Wife has spent a lot of time volunteering at school(was a teacher earlier but currently pursues this as a serious hobby).

After that bit of background, request any of the Guru's to predict my chances of getting the coveted Sxxxxxxxx number to replace my Gxxxxxxxx ? I have heard a lot of urban legends - you name it, I have most likely heard it

[nakatago]

40-50%

Stability, on the other hand, Indian.

[Manoj.K]

That's like saying, maybe or maybe not. But you did answer my question. I guess I need to just let it go & take what comes... however, is there anything I could do to improve my chances other than changing my ethnicity or nationality?

[nakatago]

That's like saying, maybe or maybe not. But you did answer my question. I guess I need to just let it go & take what comes... however, is there anything I could do to improve my chances other than changing my ethnicity or nationality?

Unless you can telepathically change the minds of locals and/or politicians, no. Just ride out your current visas and renew them (if possible) if you don't get your PRs to show your commitment; maybe by then, someone else telepathically changes the minds of the locals.

You've already jumped off the plane; just enjoy the ride and don't forget to pull your ripcord.

[Manoj.K]

Telepathy! Ah I wish I took that course at my masters when it was still an option. Dang!

I hear you loud and clear though. Show commitment & hope for the best.

But Ho boi - this commitment thingy will sink us all one day (Sigh!)

[PNGMK]

Hi Guys,

I know it's probably too late to ask but better to ask than be left pondering what if I had.....

So here goes:

- Family of 4 applying for PR
- Husband (yeah! Me, aged 37)+ Wife (yeah! My better half, aged 40)
+ 2 boys (12 & 6, studying in local schools)
- Indians ( Yeah nationalistic but not jingo )
- Both husband & wife are post graduates (I have a Masters in Marketing from UCD, Ireland & she has a Masters in InfoTech from KSOU, India)
- 3 years (taxes filed for 2, pay slips for 2013 as this years taxes not processed)
- I have been on P1 for the first 1.5 years, PEP for the remaining 1.5
- Currently work as Product Marketing Manager for an MNC (under EDB Sponsorship) taking care of our South Asia markets
- Total Experience 16+ years, 7 years with current company
- Spend time regularly at CC, Doing a lot of social service (no - not because of the most obviously thought of reason, I love it!)
- Wife has spent a lot of time volunteering at school(was a teacher earlier but currently pursues this as a serious hobby).

After that bit of background, request any of the Guru's to predict my chances of getting the coveted Sxxxxxxxx number to replace my Gxxxxxxxx ? I have heard a lot of urban legends - you name it, I have most likely heard it

Good luck but I doubt you'll get it. You honestly don't need it anyways. Save your money for a nice retirement in India.

[Max Headroom]

Mr. Minoj, I reckon you may just get that PR on sheer personality.

Good luck!

[Manoj.K]

Thanks Nakatago, PNGMK & Max Headroom. Going today, will keep this forum updated so you have one more data-point.

PS : Max, You are a fine judge of character or you might be someone I know.

[iamneo]

Indian nationality is a minus but fortunately you are not working in the banking and IT sectors so I believe you have a chance

[sundaymorningstaple]

Indian nationality is a minus but fortunately you are not working in the banking and IT sectors so I believe you have a chance

[Manoj.K]

It's been 6+ months of waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting & then some more... Status still shows "pending". Some people who applied after me have gotten their PR cards (sigh!), some people have gotten rejection notices (damn!), some Angmoh's got their coveted status in 3 months! I am still waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting & waiting some more...

[rajagainstthemachine]

Might happen, yeah!

[PNGMK]

It's been 6+ months of waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting & then some more... Status still shows "pending". Some people who applied after me have gotten their PR cards (sigh!), some people have gotten rejection notices (damn!), some Angmoh's got their coveted status in 3 months! I am still waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting & waiting some more...

6 months is nothing so far. Check back at 18 months.

[JR8]

My impression looking at your family bio was that you'd have a decent chance, given that you seem to tick several boxes.

The only facet that is most subjective, and totally out of your hands, is that of race. The government manage the racial balance here so if one race grows out of line then they seem to become 'not flavour of the month' for a period of time while the racial balances moves back on-target.

So my thinking is that 'you have a decent chance', but if your application happens to coincide with 'Race: Indian' not being preferred right now, then, heads down and give it a couple more years and try again.

If you happened to be refused this time, their notification might say 'You are welcome to re-apply in X years'. IMHO that would tie-in with the paragraph above. However if you are declined and there is no suggestion re: re-applying, then previous opinion here has been you might as well make other plans, as you'll never get approval.

- If you had to re-apply later, I think the fact you'd be showing that you'd be willing for your sons to do NS could be significant.

-- Good luck. This is just my 2c/E+EO. If I'm out of line on anything above, hopefully one of the resident experts will correct me.
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Edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_s ... _Singapore
'Conscription in Singapore, called National Service (NS), requires all male Singaporean citizens and non-first-generation permanent residents who have reached the age of 18 to enroll for national service. They serve a 22- or 24-month period as Full Time National Servicemen (NSFs), either in the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF), Singapore Police Force (SPF), or the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF).'

It appears your sons would not be liable to NS.

[Manoj.K]

My sons are liable for NS! I have no doubt about that and I really want them to go through NS. The elder one is preparing already. He tried for NCC - was refused (because he is a foreigner)! Then tried NCDCC - got in, then refused the uniform! Some security check being conducted for 1 year!! Seriously? Security Check on a minor?? No one knows what that check is, either.

Then, just a couple of weeks back, he was the only Sec1 boy from his school, selected for a inter-school parade competition. Hyuk! Now I am getting to know the teacher is getting the uniform for him. That teacher has single-handedly restored my faith in the Singapore system.

Dear Teacher - Thank You!

For people who think 6 months is nothing, I wish you read my post completely - its not about the time, its about some people getting through OR failing BUT me being in limbo. I have no qualms about waiting - I am in a good job and I am earning relatively well - maybe a bit less than what I would be earning back in India but that is a small price to pay.

The Big Wait & Watch continues....