sundaymorningstaple wrote:Godfather_Justin wrote:its too early to decide which citizenship he should take when he is not even born yet. Thank you all for the clarification and suggestion. I will need to discuss this matter with my families again. At least he can have the dual citizenship until the age of 12. Again thank you all !
If he hold dual citizenship at 12 he'll still have dual citizenship until within 12 months of obtaining his 21st birthday. He's not allow to renounce before the age of 21. What people are confusing is the NS issue. If you announce his intentions of renouncing at the age of 21 to mindef at the age of 13 , then he can get a exit permit and a deferment from NS until he turns 21. This may be granted if family has already immigrated. However, if he doesn't renounce at the age of 21 then he will be required to immediately enter NS. If he doesn't and is out of the country, then he will be listed as a deserter/defaulter and will not be allowed to return to Singapore, or, if he does he will be picked up, fined, incarcerated and upon his release, still be required to do NS unless he's over the age for NS. Should that happen the fine & jail term will be adjusted accordingly. Additionally, the odds of being given a deferment will be dependent, in a lot of cases, on the status of the parents. If they have both given up their citizenship and acquired foreign citizenship, it's usually no problem, however, if one is still holding on to their citizenship then it will be seen as just a ruse to avoid NS and the deferment request will be refused. They've seen it all before.
Have a good read/research in the Strictly Speaking forum for NS issues. It's been covered in great depth over the years and it hasn't changed except when Singapore went to the biometric passports, at that point the age was changed from 11 to 13 years of age. The process is tricky and has a lot of stumbling blocks and pitfalls, deliberately so. It's important to know before as it's rare to impossible to change once the damage has been done.
can i understand this way:
1. If we want our son to go NS, we should just leave as it is (Dual citizenship until 21 yrs old, and of course serve NS at the age of 18).
2. If we do NOT want our son to serve NS, we must inform to Mindef
before the age of 13 that he is not going to serve NS. At this time Mindef will likely approve our request, so that he does not need to serve NS. Is my understanding correct ?
3. If we inform/submit to Mindef that our son is NOT going to serve NS
after the age of 13, we MUST provide strong reasoning/evidence to show why we do not want him to do NS. this will not be as easy as point number 1, it will be subjected to approval. Is my understanding?
4. So Basically, if we do NOT want him to go for NS, inform/submit to Mindef no later than the age of 13. Is this correct ?
5. So my question is that, if we inform Mindef before the age of 13 that he is not going to serve NS, will my son still retain his dual citizenship till the age of 21?
Many thanks.
