It's not particularly legal and lots of business is conducted this way. I've seen this lots of times... a MNC brings in talent from another country to work with a special client, or flies in people for developing the next 5 year budget cycle, or flies in an infrastructure architect from the US for a big proposal or flies someone in to do damage control.Beeroclock wrote:Sms, I've seen people in similar situations using visit pass. I think if asked they would describe the activity as business meeting, training etc rather than "support work". Of course they would not be paid any income in Singapore. Is this really illegal? The visit pass does allow entry for business or professional purposes. Seems a grey area between business trip and work, but perhaps 4 weeks is a stretch.
Thank you! I tried to visit the link but I don't see any specific information. Just the main page of the MOM.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Update to my last post.
You might be able to qualify for this:
http://www.mom.gov.sg/Pages/default.aspx
As per SE I've seen it many many times too. I would expect you should be fine but it will help substantially if you stop referring to it as "work" or "working in Singapore". This will be problematic. Much better to say You're coming here on a business visit for knowledge transfer and training purposes. You are not being paid wages or salary here and will be reimbursed for expenses etc by your overseas employer, right? This is happening 100's maybe even 1000's of times every day by very big companies on ordinary visit pass. I would be very surprised if any problem encountered if you describe your visit purpose carefully. If I were you I'd also get this properly cleared with your employer, make sure they agree with what you're doing based on your enquiries. At the end of the day they will get in big trouble too in the unlikely event there is a problem so it's better to make sure they agree at the start.hellogoodbye wrote:Thank you for all your help!
I've called the Singapore embassy in Brussels today and the lady on the phone told me that I do not need a Visa to work in Singapore for 4 weeks. As long as I do not stay longer than 90 days there would be no problem.
I am a little scared to believe this, but on the other side it sounds quite logical what Strong Eagle is saying about it.
Maybe my employer does think I need the EP but actually it's not really necessary for this type of working in Singapore.
In my case I will fly over there and train a team in a store for 4 weeks. I will stay in a hotel and not in an apartment.
The store itself is located in Singapore but is an European company. I will not get paid in Singapore dollars but will get the same salary as I get over here. And since I am absolutely not planning to stay or live in Singapore I hope it will be possible without the EP.
Of course I will never be a 100% sure that I won't get any problems while working in the store or at the airport.
The link in X9200's post above appears to refer to Business Visas for people from 'Assessment Level 1 and 2' [i.e. risk-on] countries. I have been unable to find a government website page that explains the requirements, if any, for business visitors from more everyday/stable countries, like say the EU/US/Aus-NZ. I.e. temporary business visits, that do not entail the subject being put onto local payroll. The idea of having to apply to MOM for a 'permanent' employee visa for a business trip it surely preposterous! What next, ten people visiting from the NYC and London offices for a conference, 'Do we have the Foreign Worker Quota, to get them all visas?'. Silly.hellogoodbye wrote:Well, even though the embassy told me that I would not need the EP for the business trip, my employer did not wanted me to go without the visa. I can imagine they do not want to take the risk and the "grey area" between working and business or training related trips can cause big problems for me or my employer.
So, applying for the EP was the only option for me. I have been honest about my conviction on the forms and all I can do now is hoping that they would see this as a big problem.
Thanks for all the advice!
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