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Postby kumar_work » Tue, 21 Oct 2014 12:11 am

I have received a letter from moe. I called up the school and they told to confirm the registration asap as they would be having introduction session on 5th November . I need to confirm to school before 18th nov As per moe letter.

Now Ii need to choose my kid admission on Indian school if not local primary school. I can relocate to any place if the education is good.

Any idea which would be good system (Indian system or local system ). I am looking for good education system at least till p2 and till p6 if I stay in singapore another 5 more years.
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Postby Wd40 » Tue, 21 Oct 2014 12:58 am

I am not very sure which is better, Indian or Local. I have friends in both. So I think both are good. From what I heard local schools go very slow in the beginning and then suddenly pick up at the PSLE level and children find it difficult to cope and there is too much pressure. Indian schools are steadier.

If you are a Tamil and want to choose Tamil as the second language I think you will have less problem with local school, but I had friends who wanted to have Hindi and then it was not available in the school and they had to send for Hindi classes separately.

Just look at yourself, with your English skills you managed to find a job in Singapore, so I think your child will be come out top no matter which school he/she gets into :P

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Postby kumar_work » Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:31 pm

Wd40 wrote:I am not very sure which is better, Indian or Local. I have friends in both. So I think both are good. From what I heard local schools go very slow in the beginning and then suddenly pick up at the PSLE level and children find it difficult to cope and there is too much pressure. Indian schools are steadier.

If you are a Tamil and want to choose Tamil as the second language I think you will have less problem with local school, but I had friends who wanted to have Hindi and then it was not available in the school and they had to send for Hindi classes separately.

Just look at yourself, with your English skills you managed to find a job in Singapore, so I think your child will be come out top no matter which school he/she gets into :P


You are absolutely correct and my kid second language is tamil. Even I am thing to move my kid to Indian school and I don’t want my kid to change the school system after P2 / P3 due to country change. Anyhow she would be attending other classes ( English and Maths ) from outside as usual.

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Postby zzm9980 » Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:46 pm

OP you should be grateful you got a spot in any local school. I follow a Facebook group of foreigners putting their kids into local schools, and a scary-high percentage are having their kids flat-out rejected from attending *any* local school on the island for P1 next year.

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Postby Wd40 » Fri, 24 Oct 2014 2:29 pm

zzm9980 wrote:OP you should be grateful you got a spot in any local school. I follow a Facebook group of foreigners putting their kids into local schools, and a scary-high percentage are having their kids flat-out rejected from attending *any* local school on the island for P1 next year.


Interesting. Can you please PM me the facebook group name?

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Postby zzm9980 » Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:40 pm

Wd40 wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:OP you should be grateful you got a spot in any local school. I follow a Facebook group of foreigners putting their kids into local schools, and a scary-high percentage are having their kids flat-out rejected from attending *any* local school on the island for P1 next year.


Interesting. Can you please PM me the facebook group name?


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Interestingly too the P1 application form doesn't ask anything about race, income, or even how long you've been in Singapore. Just nationality and where you live. The poll so far is making it look like about 1/3rd have been flat out rejected. I'll make a new forum topic next week about it with some other data for those who don't wish to venture over to Facebook.

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Postby Wd40 » Sat, 25 Oct 2014 2:36 pm

Thanks ZZM. I have sent a request to join the group. Meanwhile did some more reading about Phase 3 registration. I tried to find out how exactly it works and what the vacancy list was like for foreigners. I couldn't find the complete list of schools and number of vacancies in them. It appears foreigners can make a choice of schools and the MoE decides whether they get the school of their choice, any school or nothing at all.

From this link:

http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/admissi ... istration/


School posting will take into consideration factors such as availability of school vacancies and ensuring a good spread of students


I think what this means is; they wouldn't want too many foreigners of same nationality concentrated in one school. Clearly bad news for people like "Indians living in Tampines" as there will already be lots of Indian PRs in those schools and hence hardly any Indian foreigners will get postings in them in phase 3

This explains why Kumar's child got a posting in Marsiling.

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Postby zzm9980 » Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:28 pm

Wd40 wrote:Thanks ZZM. I have sent a request to join the group. Meanwhile did some more reading about Phase 3 registration. I tried to find out how exactly it works and what the vacancy list was like for foreigners. I couldn't find the complete list of schools and number of vacancies in them. It appears foreigners can make a choice of schools and the MoE decides whether they get the school of their choice, any school or nothing at all.

From this link:

http://www.moe.gov.Singapore/education/ ... istration/


School posting will take into consideration factors such as availability of school vacancies and ensuring a good spread of students


I think what this means is; they wouldn't want too many foreigners of same nationality concentrated in one school. Clearly bad news for people like "Indians living in Tampines" as there will already be lots of Indian PRs in those schools and hence hardly any Indian foreigners will get postings in them in phase 3

This explains why Kumar's child got a posting in Marsiling.


Makes sense. As you'll see when you read that Facebook group, a large amount of the complaints were Indians in the east (Bedok and farther) upset their kids are being sent to AMK.

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Postby Wd40 » Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:49 pm

Joined the FB group, lots of information. It appears 1/3,1/3,1/3 split of people who got into their selected school, people who got into some school and people who were rejected flat out.

There is a thread there about whether applying for PR increases chances to get into a local schools. The comments are very interesting :)

There are plenty of people of all nationalities who have gamed the system and left out their kids from applying PR and now worried. Its only the Indians who get a bad rap on this forum. I think its because Indians think there is nothing wrong in doing it and are open about it on this forum. The remaining nationalities know its wrong and just keep it to themselves ;)

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Postby Wd40 » Sun, 26 Oct 2014 1:35 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
Wd40 wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:OP you should be grateful you got a spot in any local school. I follow a Facebook group of foreigners putting their kids into local schools, and a scary-high percentage are having their kids flat-out rejected from attending *any* local school on the island for P1 next year.


Interesting. Can you please PM me the facebook group name?


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Interestingly too the P1 application form doesn't ask anything about race, income, or even how long you've been in Singapore. Just nationality and where you live. The poll so far is making it look like about 1/3rd have been flat out rejected. I'll make a new forum topic next week about it with some other data for those who don't wish to venture over to Facebook.


P1 application form does ask about race, here is the form:
http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/admissi ... n-Form.pdf

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Postby zzm9980 » Sun, 26 Oct 2014 5:44 pm

Wd40 wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
Wd40 wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:OP you should be grateful you got a spot in any local school. I follow a Facebook group of foreigners putting their kids into local schools, and a scary-high percentage are having their kids flat-out rejected from attending *any* local school on the island for P1 next year.


Interesting. Can you please PM me the facebook group name?


Sent.

Interestingly too the P1 application form doesn't ask anything about race, income, or even how long you've been in Singapore. Just nationality and where you live. The poll so far is making it look like about 1/3rd have been flat out rejected. I'll make a new forum topic next week about it with some other data for those who don't wish to venture over to Facebook.


P1 application form does ask about race, here is the form:
http://www.moe.gov.Singapore/education/ ... n-Form.pdf


Ahh interesting. For some reason I thought I saw that and thought it only asked nationality.

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Postby zzm9980 » Sun, 26 Oct 2014 5:48 pm

Wd40 wrote:There is a thread there about whether applying for PR increases chances to get into a local schools. The comments are very interesting :)


I read the same post(s) and know exactly what you're talking about. I can only imagine the 27 page flame-fest that would ensue if that thread had occurred on this forum :)

*- For those wondering, it is a topic amongst foreigner parents where half are openly bitching about how unfair/corrupt/stupid they feel the gov is for not giving their kids equal priority with PRs and/or citizens in P1 for school. The other half are discussing how to get PR and then get their sons out of doing NS.

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Postby kumar_work » Sun, 26 Oct 2014 6:17 pm

Wd40 wrote:Thanks ZZM. I have sent a request to join the group. Meanwhile did some more reading about Phase 3 registration. I tried to find out how exactly it works and what the vacancy list was like for foreigners. I couldn't find the complete list of schools and number of vacancies in them. It appears foreigners can make a choice of schools and the MoE decides whether they get the school of their choice, any school or nothing at all.

From this link:

http://www.moe.gov.Singapore/education/ ... istration/


School posting will take into consideration factors such as availability of school vacancies and ensuring a good spread of students


I think what this means is; they wouldn't want too many foreigners of same nationality concentrated in one school. Clearly bad news for people like "Indians living in Tampines" as there will already be lots of Indian PRs in those schools and hence hardly any Indian foreigners will get postings in them in phase 3

This explains why Kumar's child got a posting in Marsiling.


One of my friend also staying at west coast road and he also got the near wood lands area , he has decided not to send his kid to local school due to distance issues and he just done re-contract before his MOE result out and owner also not ready to refund.

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Postby Wd40 » Sun, 26 Oct 2014 6:37 pm

kumar_work wrote:
Wd40 wrote:Thanks ZZM. I have sent a request to join the group. Meanwhile did some more reading about Phase 3 registration. I tried to find out how exactly it works and what the vacancy list was like for foreigners. I couldn't find the complete list of schools and number of vacancies in them. It appears foreigners can make a choice of schools and the MoE decides whether they get the school of their choice, any school or nothing at all.

From this link:

http://www.moe.gov.Singapore/education/ ... istration/


School posting will take into consideration factors such as availability of school vacancies and ensuring a good spread of students


I think what this means is; they wouldn't want too many foreigners of same nationality concentrated in one school. Clearly bad news for people like "Indians living in Tampines" as there will already be lots of Indian PRs in those schools and hence hardly any Indian foreigners will get postings in them in phase 3

This explains why Kumar's child got a posting in Marsiling.


One of my friend also staying at west coast road and he also got the near wood lands area , he has decided not to send his kid to local school due to distance issues and he just done re-contract before his MOE result out and owner also not ready to refund.


If you join that FB group you will realize you are lucky to get a place in local school. For 1st 2 yrs your fees will be only $100 per month compared to $800-1500 in Indian school. So you save a lot more money than what you will lose of you break contract. Also there is chance to change school from P2.

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Postby kumar_work » Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:36 pm

Wd40 wrote:
kumar_work wrote:
Wd40 wrote:Thanks ZZM. I have sent a request to join the group. Meanwhile did some more reading about Phase 3 registration. I tried to find out how exactly it works and what the vacancy list was like for foreigners. I couldn't find the complete list of schools and number of vacancies in them. It appears foreigners can make a choice of schools and the MoE decides whether they get the school of their choice, any school or nothing at all.

From this link:

http://www.moe.gov.Singapore/education/ ... istration/


School posting will take into consideration factors such as availability of school vacancies and ensuring a good spread of students


I think what this means is; they wouldn't want too many foreigners of same nationality concentrated in one school. Clearly bad news for people like "Indians living in Tampines" as there will already be lots of Indian PRs in those schools and hence hardly any Indian foreigners will get postings in them in phase 3

This explains why Kumar's child got a posting in Marsiling.


One of my friend also staying at west coast road and he also got the near wood lands area , he has decided not to send his kid to local school due to distance issues and he just done re-contract before his MOE result out and owner also not ready to refund.


If you join that FB group you will realize you are lucky to get a place in local school. For 1st 2 yrs your fees will be only $100 per month compared to $800-1500 in Indian school. So you save a lot more money than what you will lose of you break contract. Also there is chance to change school from P2.


Yes your are correct, I have still not decided the school. I already asked MOE regarding the school transfer after P1/P2 and they confirmed that foreigners are not allowed for school transfer as per current rules. I don't have any idea on this this and MOE web site also have same rule.

http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/admissi ... igibility/


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