
His views are pretty balanced. You see this reality as something normal because you have been brought up here but the true is most of the Western countries foreigners are plain shocked when they arrive in Singapore and see for example the dormitories. What is shocking is not the condition (lots of third world countries around) but the fact that something like this exist in Singapore and another fact that you seem oblivious of the impression it creates.hairy legs wrote:SMS, you have been living in Singapore for so many years I would have hoped that your views are more balanced...
If you are to speak with any Locals, they will tell you that this is the result of too liberal a Foreign Worker policy such that the Govt loses its grip on them.
And if you are to speak with a boss, he will tell you that the cost of employment is so high that he cannot affortf to put all his workers in a bus.
So we are all speculating and there are many views to it. Yours is only one aspect..
Getting personal isnt it?sundaymorningstaple wrote:And nobody forces you to go to your quarters at night or forces you to return home because you were conned and ended up owing a year or more's salary to some agent who conned you. Or just cancelled your WP and didn't pay you and didn't repatriate you either. Nobody promised you one thing and gave you something extremely different than what was promised. You are right. Myopic thought processes from the land with the highest incidence of myopia in the world. Oh well, true blue are you?
Its quite clearly a slow build up ........ whatever happened last night was the straw that broke the camels back.hairy legs wrote:Getting personal isnt it?sundaymorningstaple wrote:And nobody forces you to go to your quarters at night or forces you to return home because you were conned and ended up owing a year or more's salary to some agent who conned you. Or just cancelled your WP and didn't pay you and didn't repatriate you either. Nobody promised you one thing and gave you something extremely different than what was promised. You are right. Myopic thought processes from the land with the highest incidence of myopia in the world. Oh well, true blue are you?
I have a BIL who is a construction contractor. I do hear horror stories of Foreign Workers being ill treaded and abused. One illegal worker was dumped into a drain after he fell off the ladder. So there are abuses of workers in Singapore, I dont disagree.
But ill treated worker is the reason for the riot?
The gahmen seems to be floating the idea of restricting alcohol sales and/or consumption opportunities in the area. Essentially, trying to fight the symptoms instead of admitting and fighting the root cause.Travailes wrote:I can't believe some people on here are suggesting restricting movement to visit an area with which they share a cultural attachment. Surely even SG would'nt impose that ! How on earth could you police it without creating a ghetto. Maybe what will happen is that they'll enforce a curfew it there are further incidents.
Let's be honest - these people are treated like slaves. It is probably better that they do get a chance to socialise rather than being couped up in a dormitory. I've never felt threatened in LI and I've been in some seedy bars in the area. Maybe it's because I have no 'issue' with Indians whereas the local SG population seem to have a very low opinion, sadly, of them as people and a race.
My Mum, who is 80, just arrived this week for Xmas. On seeing construction workers crammed on the back of a flatbed she said "Are those criminals ? being taken to jail ?". "No Mum, that's how they are treated in a First World Country !"
And how about the countries where you and your type have been treated as 3rd-class indentured labour? How did you feel then?hairy legs wrote:You are right. Wherever I have been, I am still a Singaporean / local. But having lived in a few countries, I have learnt to be respectful of the host country no matter how superior I feel.
Well, crowding the whole footpath and then overflowing on the road because there is no space on the footpath and then letting them flout all kinds of laws like jaywalking is the problem. Another very important law in Singapore, is the ristriction on forming crowds. Yet, here there is alway such a big crowd of a single ethinicity. Don't you see the danger there? I mean if everywhere in Singapore was like that then its ok. But letting one place like LI to is like a release valve, brings out all the animal spirits out of people, which is subdued in other places in Singapore.Travailes wrote:I can't believe some people on here are suggesting restricting movement to visit an area with which they share a cultural attachment. Surely even SG would'nt impose that ! How on earth could you police it without creating a ghetto. Maybe what will happen is that they'll enforce a curfew it there are further incidents.
Let's be honest - these people are treated like slaves. It is probably better that they do get a chance to socialise rather than being couped up in a dormitory. I've never felt threatened in LI and I've been in some seedy bars in the area.
Agreed , surely anyone not blind can see the problems.AngMoG wrote:The gahmen seems to be floating the idea of restricting alcohol sales and/or consumption opportunities in the area. Essentially, trying to fight the symptoms instead of admitting and fighting the root cause.Travailes wrote:I can't believe some people on here are suggesting restricting movement to visit an area with which they share a cultural attachment. Surely even SG would'nt impose that ! How on earth could you police it without creating a ghetto. Maybe what will happen is that they'll enforce a curfew it there are further incidents.
Let's be honest - these people are treated like slaves. It is probably better that they do get a chance to socialise rather than being couped up in a dormitory. I've never felt threatened in LI and I've been in some seedy bars in the area. Maybe it's because I have no 'issue' with Indians whereas the local SG population seem to have a very low opinion, sadly, of them as people and a race.
My Mum, who is 80, just arrived this week for Xmas. On seeing construction workers crammed on the back of a flatbed she said "Are those criminals ? being taken to jail ?". "No Mum, that's how they are treated in a First World Country !"
Fully agree with you. Those people are treated like slaves, and have almost no rights. Check the various blogs on this topic for details.
The way I sees it, the accident was the catalyst, the real reason/root cause is the general discontent.
Ah right.... the 'Little India Prohibition Zone [LIPZ for short]'. That'll go down well with the tourists, and hey Prohibition worked so well in 1920s America didn't it!AngMoG wrote:The gahmen seems to be floating the idea of restricting alcohol sales and/or consumption opportunities in the area. Essentially, trying to fight the symptoms instead of admitting and fighting the root cause.
You appear to disconnect yourself from 'them', your fellow countrymen.Wd40 wrote: I am not saying socializing is bad, but they need to let them do it like any other place in Singapore.
In my opinion the injustice toward workers is the trigger for the riot. A while back a maid stabbed 16 yo girl, the rumor was that the maid was incredibly mistreated by the family, with no day off etc. not an unusual story for singapore.hairy legs wrote:Getting personal isnt it?sundaymorningstaple wrote:And nobody forces you to go to your quarters at night or forces you to return home because you were conned and ended up owing a year or more's salary to some agent who conned you. Or just cancelled your WP and didn't pay you and didn't repatriate you either. Nobody promised you one thing and gave you something extremely different than what was promised. You are right. Myopic thought processes from the land with the highest incidence of myopia in the world. Oh well, true blue are you?
I have a BIL who is a construction contractor. I do hear horror stories of Foreign Workers being ill treaded and abused. One illegal worker was dumped into a drain after he fell off the ladder. So there are abuses of workers in Singapore, I dont disagree.
But ill treated worker is the reason for the riot?
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