Fibre Internet: My Republic/ViewQuest/Starhub/Singtel

[mmv]

zzm9980 Thank you for helping and giving me a better understanding.

I will go ahead with My Republic and see if they can do anything to optimize routing. Will let you know in 1-3 weeks depending on how quick I can get OpenNet to install the fiber point.

~ Thank you to everyone who helped ~

[BZsofia]

Hello, does anyone have switched from Starhub broadband to fibre? They (Starhub) are trying to talk me out of using fibre, but the speed and the service they provide is pathetic. My router's wifi does not work, so their soultion was that I should use cable - replacement on my own cost only. The device is here for 2 weeks only. I really want to switch, but they alwasy say that fibre (and epecially MyRepublic) will be slower than their broadband.
I would appreciate your advices a lot. I should be able to access my company's servers in Europe, and I literally cannot work now.

Sofia

[Tanuki]

Hello, does anyone have switched from Starhub broadband to fibre? They (Starhub) are trying to talk me out of using fibre, but the speed and the service they provide is pathetic. My router's wifi does not work, so their soultion was that I should use cable - replacement on my own cost only. The device is here for 2 weeks only. I really want to switch, but they alwasy say that fibre (and epecially MyRepublic) will be slower than their broadband.
I would appreciate your advices a lot. I should be able to access my company's servers in Europe, and I literally cannot work now.

Sofia

I haven't used SH for Internet at all, but there's no way cable competes with the capacity of fiber. I say capacity because that's what bandwidth really is. SH is just blowing smoke up your backside to keep you paying them.

I've been with My Republic since day 1, and it's excellent bandwidth at a very good price. Currently I have 150 mbps for $45 and will get 1 gbps in the fall for an extra $5 a month. The good part of MR (and Viewquest, as I hear) is they avoid the 30 mbps chokepoint going off the island. ST and SH do get slowed down there...

[BZsofia]

Thank you very much! Can you help me with one more thing, could you please someone not on Starhub traceroute 212.24.174.18 for me? And copy here the results?

Many thanks!

Zsofi

[Tanuki]

Thank you very much! Can you help me with one more thing, could you please someone not on Starhub traceroute 212.24.174.18 for me? And copy here the results?

Many thanks!

Zsofi

traceroute to 212.24.174.18 (212.24.174.18), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.548 ms 0.356 ms 0.267 ms
2 172.24.0.1 (172.24.0.1) 5.197 ms 5.795 ms 7.059 ms
3 192.168.255.2 (192.168.255.2) 5.566 ms 4.399 ms 3.947 ms
4 10ge-103-6-148-29.myrepublic.com.sg (103.6.148.29) 3.841 ms 3.584 ms 4.086 ms
5 xe-7-0-0.sin11.ip4.tinet.net (183.182.80.69) 3.369 ms 3.601 ms 3.726 ms
6 xe-1-3-2.sjc10.ip4.tinet.net (141.136.109.21) 172.832 ms 173.420 ms 173.474 ms
7 4.68.62.213 (4.68.62.213) 182.716 ms 179.786 ms
level3-10ge-peering (77.67.69.98) 189.405 ms
8 vlan60.csw1.sanjose1.level3.net (4.69.152.62) 325.846 ms
vlan70.csw2.sanjose1.level3.net (4.69.152.126) 327.937 ms 330.906 ms
9 ae-81-81.ebr1.sanjose1.level3.net (4.69.153.9) 329.350 ms
ae-61-61.ebr1.sanjose1.level3.net (4.69.153.1) 326.436 ms
ae-81-81.ebr1.sanjose1.level3.net (4.69.153.9) 328.510 ms
10 ae-2-2.ebr2.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.135.186) 327.058 ms 325.439 ms 336.079 ms
11 ae-92-92.csw4.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.148.46) 325.884 ms
ae-62-62.csw1.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.148.34) 329.407 ms
ae-92-92.csw4.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.148.46) 328.161 ms
12 ae-81-81.ebr1.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.134.73) 332.179 ms
ae-71-71.ebr1.newyork1.level3.net (4.69.134.69) 336.623 ms 328.136 ms
13 ae-43-43.ebr2.london1.level3.net (4.69.137.73) 326.637 ms
ae-42-42.ebr2.london1.level3.net (4.69.137.69) 336.511 ms 339.592 ms
14 ae-23-23.ebr2.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.148.194) 327.769 ms 332.611 ms
ae-21-21.ebr2.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.148.186) 334.243 ms
15 ae-82-82.csw3.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.140.26) 335.595 ms
ae-72-72.csw2.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.140.22) 330.092 ms
ae-62-62.csw1.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.140.18) 327.754 ms
16 ae-1-60.edge5.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.154.9) 328.311 ms
ae-3-80.edge5.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.154.137) 329.186 ms
ae-1-60.edge5.frankfurt1.level3.net (4.69.154.9) 328.487 ms
17 level32sellinet.sellinet.net (212.162.4.38) 284.712 ms 279.387 ms 274.044 ms
18 xe-0-1-0.info-p1.invitel.net (213.163.54.246) 275.055 ms 274.261 ms 284.412 ms
19 ten7-1.info-pe1.invitel.net (213.163.54.126) 287.749 ms 279.472 ms 283.882 ms
20 ge1-1.info-pe3.invitel.net (213.163.54.106) 284.464 ms 278.388 ms 283.393 ms
21 fw.danubiushotels.com (82.141.179.246) 274.974 ms 278.096 ms 276.806 ms
22 213.253.207.10 (213.253.207.10) 279.449 ms 277.377 ms 280.531 ms

No returns after that hop...

[UrbanNomad]

Looking at a new connection... from what i read so far MR seems to be the way to go, but last evening as i was making enquiries at the stores, saw an offering from M1 that seemed to cost lesser initial set up costs as well better discounts on new routers etc. I'd say a saving of approx $150 overall. Monthly charges for the 1gbps plan remain the same: $50

Any feedback on M1 vs MR?

[zzm9980]

Looking at a new connection... from what i read so far MR seems to be the way to go, but last evening as i was making enquiries at the stores, saw an offering from M1 that seemed to cost lesser initial set up costs as well better discounts on new routers etc. I'd say a saving of approx $150 overall. Monthly charges for the 1gbps plan remain the same: $50

Any feedback on M1 vs MR?

M1 is shit, the same as Singtel or Starhub. As I normally advise, if you're technical enough to understand the differences between the routers and 1gb/s vs 100mb/s (actually know how/if it will help, not just that the number is 10 times bigger) then go with MR or VQ.

[rajagainstthemachine]

Provider: M1
Plan: Homepac 200Mbps fiber
Lan/Wireless : wireless/wired no difference

JPN: min 93 max 97 avg 93
USA: min 252 max 258 avg 289
EUR: min 311 max 313 avg 311





edit: sorry was looking at ttl there

[rajagainstthemachine]

alternative test: I have a VPN router which establishes a tunnel to my company network, it assigns any of my devices an class B subnet which my company uses, i am going to ping a server located in different parts of the world and see how that goes

Here are the results over a wired connection


Australia: min 147 max 148 avg 147
UK: min 223 max 228 avg 224
USA: min 233 max 239 avg 234

[zzm9980]

What really hurts the big 3 is that they transparently proxy all of your web traffic. You can't really see that from ICMP tests.

[rajagainstthemachine]

I really wish I can gone with myrepublic or viewquest, but I had already signed up on a 2 year contract with M1 so no choice but to run that down.

[zzm9980]

I really wish I can gone with myrepublic or viewquest, but I had already signed up on a 2 year contract with M1 so no choice but to run that down.

Don't worry, it happens to us all. I got stuck with two years of Singtel MIO when I first moved here

[UrbanNomad]

Don't worry, it happens to us all. I got stuck with two years of Singtel MIO when I first moved here

Is starhub better off for TV then?

[zzm9980]

Don't worry, it happens to us all. I got stuck with two years of Singtel MIO when I first moved here

Is starhub better off for TV then?

They're equally crappy quality last I checked (about a year or so ago), just different content. Singtel has more non-EPL sports. Starhub had more movies/non sports content. However Starhub is also analog, which meant that the chinese subtitles were hard-coded into most shows and you couldn't turn them off. (was? maybe this is changed)

[UrbanNomad]

They're equally crappy quality last I checked (about a year or so ago), just different content. Singtel has more non-EPL sports. Starhub had more movies/non sports content. However Starhub is also analog, which meant that the chinese subtitles were hard-coded into most shows and you couldn't turn them off. (was? maybe this is changed)

HahAhahaha. Looks like the mrs and me are going to have fun choosing a cable provider