I've to confirm that later. I know he wasn't always a Singaporean and became one only in his 30s.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Did the father do NS? If so, he would have already known about Exit Permits being required.
In this case, your analogy is entirely incorrect. As smoko already said in the preceeding post, the boy's father wasn't always a Singaporean. Taking into consideration, the boy's current age I'm thinking the father came here as a landed PR (LPR - scheme now defunct for the past two years). He would have been told about the obligation his male offspring would inherit should they take up PR or Citizenship. Therefore, the boy's obligation was obtained as a result of being born a SG Citizen. He father would have been fully aware of the obligation, even though it would appear that he probably didn't do NS at he was around 30 when he came to Singapore. Before he took up PR, he would have been instructed what his offspring's NS obligation would be. Therefore, his parents, by not following protocol, screwed the son royally, as so many have done already. This is why I've said, so many times in the past, that I hope the son's don't end up hating the parents for limiting their scope in the ever shrinking world.JR8 wrote: An interesting contrast. The parents who leave, who's children are then hung out to dry, for their parents decision. That's really gay.
The Singapore military is irrelevant. It's just used as a social/political tool.
The father was exempted from NS. I know this doesn't excuse the parents for getting themselves and the son in the current mess. From what I can tell, they are pretty stressed out. Some may even think they deserve it for being ignorant or careless about the protocols.smoko wrote:I've to confirm that later. I know he wasn't always a Singaporean and became one only in his 30s.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Did the father do NS? If so, he would have already known about Exit Permits being required.
The bond is a shoot straight thing. You posed the bond if you intend to stay out of Singapore for more than 2 years when the child leave Singapore after the age 13. If less than that 2 years an Exit Permit is enough. How difficult is that to understand?smoko wrote: There is not much information about the T&C of the bond except that to get the E.P, one must sign bond. In other words no bond, no E.P will be issued, so cannot exit Singapore. In this particular instance, at this stage, it seems pointless for the parents to retroactively apply for E.P because the son is adamant to default.
Putting aside the son, since he wants to make his own bed, what is the best option for the parents in their current plight? Would it still make sense for them to apply retroactively for E.P and furnish bond? Should they wait for mindef/cmpb to contact them?
Mad Scientist wrote:The bond is a shoot straight thing. You posed the bond if you intend to stay out of Singapore for more than 2 years when the child leave Singapore after the age 13. If less than that 2 years an Exit Permit is enough. How difficult is that to understand?smoko wrote: There is not much information about the T&C of the bond except that to get the E.P, one must sign bond. In other words no bond, no E.P will be issued, so cannot exit Singapore. In this particular instance, at this stage, it seems pointless for the parents to retroactively apply for E.P because the son is adamant to default.
Putting aside the son, since he wants to make his own bed, what is the best option for the parents in their current plight? Would it still make sense for them to apply retroactively for E.P and furnish bond? Should they wait for mindef/cmpb to contact them?
The Bond is in the form of Banker's Guarantee. You can get this application at CMPB. Alternatively posed two sureties i.e one of them is living relative in Singapore and the other is the parent of the child.
The Bond ensures that the relatives and the parent take responsibilities of the child commitment to NS. Failure to report for NS by the turn of 16 1/2 will forfeit the bond or if by surety, the sureties will be fined for $5k for this.
That does not mean in any circumstances that the child is scot-free. The child still needs to report for NS or be classified as a defaulter.
Methinks , parent of the child still wants to have the best of both world by not letting go SG Citizenship and foreign PR but wanting to circumvent the NS requirement
It ain't gonna happen. !! Greedy methinks.
Under the cloak of education for child they left SG. You and I know applying for NZ PR is far more complicated than following the NS guidelines.
What is there to stress out? You are the bloody parent of the child, for god sake !!
Declaring to Mindef that they have nothing to do with the child refusal ain't gonna work. Been there and did that for others and it backfired
Can you just drop the charade about "the parents who aren't me, even though I've been beating this dead horse into a bloody pulp for three pages and weeks of posts?" Anyone reading this with half a brain knows you're the parent who screwed their kid on NS. I guess locals might fall for it though.smoko wrote:the parents
Mate, I have been telling him from the get go. I spotted this rusezzm9980 wrote:Can you just drop the charade about "the parents who aren't me, even though I've been beating this dead horse into a bloody pulp for three pages and weeks of posts?" Anyone reading this with half a brain knows you're the parent who screwed their kid on NS. I guess locals might fall for it though.smoko wrote:the parents
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