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Post by Barnsley » Sun, 27 Oct 2013 8:57 pm

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PrimroseHill wrote:I am probably pretty out of touch, yes and my kid is probably a brat too :D
Take her for ramen in Pasir Ris then and tell assure her that Holland Village is one of the least boring places in Singapore, and everything else is much worse.

Which ramen place there anyway? I'm always on the hunt for better ramen.
I would like to know about Pasir Ris ramen too...

only got the chains and usual coffee shop interpretations as far as I know.
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Post by JR8 » Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:41 pm

I didn't understand the point either.

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Post by PNGMK » Mon, 28 Oct 2013 8:40 am

Primrose - just wanted to let you know I was thinking of your difficulties over the weekend. Even our pastor was complaining about the teen years on Sunday!

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Post by the lynx » Mon, 28 Oct 2013 10:04 am

:reflecting on own teenaged years:

My mom was a typical Asian tiger mom. A Catholic disciplinary mistress in boys' school. I gave her a lot of grief when I was a teenager. Listening to the "demonic" rock music, ditching piano and tutu for drums and guitar, multiple piercings, dyed hair purple, giving her silent treatment, all this while playing goody-two-shoes in a convent. I think the irony pained her more.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 28 Oct 2013 10:07 am

And look how well you have turned out in spite of it all. :cool:
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Post by PrimroseHill » Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:00 pm

Barnsley wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
PrimroseHill wrote:I am probably pretty out of touch, yes and my kid is probably a brat too :D
Take her for ramen in Pasir Ris then and tell assure her that Holland Village is one of the least boring places in Singapore, and everything else is much worse.

Which ramen place there anyway? I'm always on the hunt for better ramen.
I would like to know about Pasir Ris ramen too...

only got the chains and usual coffee shop interpretations as far as I know.
It is just the chains. Saying that I do like the Vietnamese Pho shop there

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Post by PNGMK » Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:22 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:And look how well you have turned out in spite of it all. :cool:
But wouldn't she (Lynx) be even better if she had done everything her mother wanted? That's the debate here I think.... (not saying Lynx isn't a fine young woman).

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Post by x9200 » Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:34 pm

Or maybe just opposit, she would be worse? If something is that frequent and happens for majority of the population it may be very well a part of the process that it is necessary to have a fine and more mature adult at the end of the line.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:55 pm

PNGMK,

Do you reckon a priest who went into the seminary as a young boy is a better priest than one who experienced life and went into the seminary as a young man? I've known both and I think the one who went into the seminary after having actually experienced the real world and gave it up makes a more intuitive priest. I know this is a rather bad example, but it's the best corollary I could think of.
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Post by PrimroseHill » Mon, 28 Oct 2013 2:06 pm

I am going to stick my neck out and say that I do want my daughter that challenges me and not afraid to give me her opinion. What I am not keen is bitchiness. Messiness, now thats another story altogether :D
Listening to goth music, staying silent etc, isn't that bad. She was alright yesterday, amazingly so.
Swimming - I agree, it never occur to me about the shyness with her body, but you guys may have hit the nail on the head.
Caracal - she listened to it on utube, she didn't think it was screamo :D

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Post by JR8 » Mon, 28 Oct 2013 3:01 pm

PNGMK wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:And look how well you have turned out in spite of it all. :cool:
But wouldn't she (Lynx) be even better if she had done everything her mother wanted? That's the debate here I think.... (not saying Lynx isn't a fine young woman).
I don't think so. Children are their own people. You can guide, encourage and coerce, but I think there's a thin line between ... ... benefiting and potentially damaging the child.

I've said it before, as a youth my best friend was brought up in a 'hideously Catholic' sanctimonious, self-bloody-righteous, 'We're morally and socially superior pillars of society (We're Catholics don't you know; kneel peasant, and kiss my ring!!) family'. They packed him off to perhaps the top sniffiest Catholic school in the country, run by monks. Where old monks, with dirty habits, were apparently in charge and wont and free to try and indulge with their teenage charges.

It really broke him. I remember (for example) him recounting the hell of having all his 12 year old housemates shod in god-less $-worshipping Gucci loafers, whilst 'brother Albert' was vying with 'brother Ezekial' to get into the child-pupils' pants.

- And he went completely off the rails. I know he became a heroine addict. Last time I heard his name, he was living in a squat in Shoreditch (an East End London dive, back then), but had joined a band that had a flash-of-light success (one could argue that band was musically significant, influential well beyond their chart success http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63lcnoj-e2I . That's him doing that nice interlude piece on lead guitar... and that little scrap, is all I have left of him.

No idea where he is now, or even whether he is still alive, I can find no trace. But the way he was brought up really directly led to him finally 'permanently exiting the whole f***ing programme'.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 28 Oct 2013 3:30 pm

PrimroseHill wrote: Caracal - she listened to it on utube, she didn't think it was screamo :D
Probably due to the fact that I'm old enough to be my son's grandfather. It's screamo to me! :lol:
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Post by zzm9980 » Mon, 28 Oct 2013 3:38 pm

PrimroseHill wrote:
Barnsley wrote:
zzm9980 wrote: Take her for ramen in Pasir Ris then and tell assure her that Holland Village is one of the least boring places in Singapore, and everything else is much worse.

Which ramen place there anyway? I'm always on the hunt for better ramen.
I would like to know about Pasir Ris ramen too...

only got the chains and usual coffee shop interpretations as far as I know.
It is just the chains. Saying that I do like the Vietnamese Pho shop there
Ah, ok. Try NamNam in Raffles City or Wheelock Place for Pho. It's even 'wife approved'. Otherwise, one of the shops on Joo Chiat for closest to authentic in SG.

For Ramen, I've been told Menya Musashi is good, and is part of a very good Japanese chain. I liked it, and they have a bunch of locations.

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Post by earthfriendly » Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:30 pm

I have incorporated "mindfulness" practice for my children with success. It is about cultivating their inner beings and include tools like breathing excercises, meditation and body movement. You can do a google search on the topic.

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Post by JR8 » Tue, 29 Oct 2013 12:56 am

What is it?

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