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PR Rejected

Post by sandeepm16 » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 2:44 pm

Hi All,

My PR application was not successful second time. No reason mentioned.
just worried what could be the reason for early rejection (2months for 1st time and 1month for second time)

here is my profile...
Nationality : Indian
Length of Stay in Singapore : ~4yrs Self and ~3yr Spouse
Household Income : 10k
Kids : 1 Son (Applied together)

Kindly advice on the reapplication and what could be wrong with the profile and provide some suggestions to improve chances in future.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: PR Rejected

Post by the lynx » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 2:48 pm

sandeepm16 wrote:Hi All,

My PR application got rejected second time. No reason mentioned.
just worried what could be the reason for early rejection (2months for 1st time and 1month for second time)

here is my profile...
Nationality : Indian
Length of Stay in Singapore : ~4yrs Self and ~3yr Spouse
Household Income : 10k
Kids : 1 Son (Applied together)

Kindly advice on the reapplication and what could be wrong with the profile and provide some suggestions to improve chances in future.

Thanks in advance.
What did your rejection letter say? Did they ask you to reapply after X number of years?

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Post by AngMoG » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 3:13 pm

Also, how long ago was your first application?

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Post by sandeepm16 » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 3:31 pm

@AngMoG i waited for 6 months after my first rejection.
@the lynx, nothing mentioned about the reapplication both the times.

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Post by the lynx » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 3:39 pm

If your rejection letter says "You are welcome to stay and work in Singapore under your current pass", it means you and your family have to get Plan B because it is their way of saying "Enjoy your EP/DP while you can because that's the only thing you will ever have".

If they really want you to be a PR, they would have approved you right away or ask you to reapply after X number of years in the rejection letter.

Sorry if it sounds harsh but it is reality. Haven't you read the news lately about PR issues and FT?

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Post by sandeepm16 » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 3:53 pm

yes, they mentioned about the stay on pass... but in recent times many people did not receive about reapplication after X months. may be that is the old convention?

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Post by the lynx » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 3:57 pm

sandeepm16 wrote:yes, they mentioned about the stay on pass... but in recent times many people did not receive about reapplication after X months. may be that is the old convention?
Nope, I still see many people who got asked to reapply after 1 or 2 years (which of course, they happily obliged). It is not an old convention, it is still current.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 4:00 pm

Maybe they are getting more rigid. Before they were rejected due to time based considerations, hence the request to reapply in 6 or 12 or 24 months time OR rejected outright with the welcome to remain on an EP/SP, etc and continue to work.

Now, they are looking for reason NOT of give applicants PR so you have to fit perfectly in a narrowed definition which may mean you are either qualified at that moment or not and not encouraging further applications. So that could translate into die-die rejection (you can continue to work on an EP...) or a "your application has been rejected" (no further hints - take it as maybe, IF YOUR SITUATION CHANGES DRAMATICALLY, you can reapply again sometime in the future. Too soon? May look desperate. Left your son or your wife off the application? Abuser, maybe? They are looking for reasons, today, to limit the inflow of PR. They are no longer encouraging people to apply.

As Lynx noted, however, If you do otherwise qualify and are something that they would like to have, then you will get the reply in x months.
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Re: PR Rejected

Post by PNGMK » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 4:15 pm

sandeepm16 wrote:Hi All,

My PR application was not successful second time. No reason mentioned.
just worried what could be the reason for early rejection (2months for 1st time and 1month for second time)

here is my profile...
Nationality : Indian
Length of Stay in Singapore : ~4yrs Self and ~3yr Spouse
Household Income : 10k
Kids : 1 Son (Applied together)

Kindly advice on the reapplication and what could be wrong with the profile and provide some suggestions to improve chances in future.

Thanks in advance.
Time for plan B old chap.

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Post by AngMoG » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 4:39 pm

If you applied only 6 months after your initial rejection, with no significant change in your professional and financial circumstances, it was predictable that it would be rejected.

I would wait another 2-3 years at least, and try to increased your salary significantly. And as others point out - work on a Plan B in case your pass does not get renewed.

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Post by sandeepm16 » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 5:35 pm

Thanks guys for the response.

i have EP validity for more than a year... but want to plan for settle in singapore. that is the reason to apply PR. my wife was not working first time when i applied, both are working while applying second time. so, thought that could be significant change in my financial eligibility.

any ways, will try to call ICA and find out if there is any reason to workout the chances of getting PR.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 6:16 pm

You are not likely to get any meaningful information, but have at it.
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Post by Wd40 » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 7:05 pm

In the last 3 years its only the Malaysian Chinese applicants who have received the "apply in XX months"; those that were too eager to apply for PR. Indian applicants, I haven't seen anyone reporting about that kind of letter. Its either In or Out.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 8:21 pm

You have a point, but we also already know the reasoning behind it as well.
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Post by tidus12000 » Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:21 pm

Wd40 wrote:In the last 3 years its only the Malaysian Chinese applicants who have received the "apply in XX months"; those that were too eager to apply for PR. Indian applicants, I haven't seen anyone reporting about that kind of letter. Its either In or Out.
As MC, I got the "apply in 6 months" letter after rejection mid last year.

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