harusame wrote: it is not about loyalty, but more likely about maintaining good relation to colleagues
Ex-colleagues? Why does that matter?
harusame wrote: without good references from colleagues, future employers/clients would not even take us into their consideration
In banking, even 20 years ago there was a blanket policy of not giving 'personal references'. All HR would do was confirm duration of service, and salary. Full stop. And, who cares what your mates you work with say about how great they think you are...
I think the idea was references 'from colleagues' are unquantifiable, and hence value-less. I'm surprised this idea has not permeated more deeply over the decades...
in research, i have the impression that we are expected to have a flawless track record, which means that even some of your exam record in university is still being considered important even after so many years of professional experience.
The colleagues i mean from my previous post was not only the colleagues in the same team, but colleagues i met and collaborate in a some other occasions.
We often exchange information regarding research opportunities
I find it very important to continue networking and maintain the link
In my case, i was NEVER being interviewed by HR personal, but always via direct conversation with the research team
HRD usually only do the formalities after the informal agreements
bro75 wrote:No one in Singapore can guarantee your pass approval except MOM. Your potential employers may be at fault if they guaranteed that your pass will be approved. (Not sure whether you have any legal recourse).
But still, when planning to take up work in a different country, it is always prudent to keep your cards close to the chest and make a move only if the pass is approved. This applies to all countries where you will need a working visa to be employed. When I moved to Singapore, I also gave the notice to my current employer only upon receipt of the IPA.
Since your relationship with your current colleagues/employer is so important to you, what I believe you should have done in your case is to tell the potential employer that you would only be available X number of months after IPA approval. X will depend on how long your current employer can transfer your project to another researcher. At least you have given your current employer some courtesy and breathing space and hopefully your relationship with them will not be damaged. If the new employer does not accept this, then tell them no deal.
JR8 is also correct. In my case, I did not care about current employer/ colleagues when moving. Your responsibility is to yourself/family first. If somehow your pass was approved and you did not give any notice to your current employer, then at least you have new work and new colleagues to build professional relationships with. Not the situation you are in now. I have moved several times with minimum notice (1 month or less) and somehow this did not affect my employability. I think people will understand if you need to move for career reasons and they will understand why you did not give more notice.
As the matter of fact, the funding of my last project came to end recently,
Even though i was being offered a possibility to continue working in the same project but the financial compensation was insufficient for my standard, so i opted to move and find another opportunity in another research project. My former colleagues do not have any problem with this.
I understand that my potential employer could not guarantee the work permit. However, they could have just decided much earlier.
Instead, they gave me the impression of confidence and let me wait for almost 4 months, only to come with this result.
There was another position being offered by another project team at that time, that i decided to turn down because of this.
I am certain that a well-known institution such as NUS does not handle this kind of issue for the first time. There is no excuse to a pending employment status for almost 4 months, especially because before they sent me the official contract, they told me they needed to approve all related documents to Ministry of Finance and MoM.