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PR for parents and Student visa for child??

Postby Lailafamily » Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:16 am

Hi all,

We are hoping to move to Singapore and in time (1-2 years apply for our PR). However as we have a young son (2+ age only) we are unsure of where his future lies and are not too keen on tying him into our PR status as that will put him down for NS duty. If we continue to live and have our kids raised in Singapore we wld be proud to have our son do the NS, but given the fact that our long term stay there is very undecided we do not want to tie him in with it. Is it possible for us to apply and get a PR and he can get a student visa? WIll that allow him the benefits of studying there, or will he still be gauged as an international student?

Any advice appreciated!

Thanks!

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Postby Wd40 » Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:18 am

Forget it! You wont be given PR.

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Postby Lailafamily » Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:19 am

Wd40 wrote:Forget it! You wont be given PR.


Can I ask on what basis you are saying that?

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Postby Wd40 » Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:20 am

They dont give PR to people who leave out their kids from the application, especially male child/children.

Edit: I read you other posts and got to know your nationality. That will make it even more tougher to get PR, even if you include your kids.

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Postby Lailafamily » Fri, 27 Sep 2013 3:13 am

Wd40 wrote:They dont give PR to people who leave out their kids from the application, especially male child/children.

Edit: I read you other posts and got to know your nationality. That will make it even more tougher to get PR, even if you include your kids.


So am I to understand that being Indian my chances are slim to begin with at the PR. Even if we are both working individuals, and buy property, pay taxes and are ok to have our son join NS, on the current quota of more Indians being in Singapore, our chances remain slim? I know this us not an easy topic to explain or make clear, and hence am trying to understand my options as best I can....

Thanks!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 27 Sep 2013 9:27 am

Sadly, what Wd40 says is true. (and he should know regarding the Indian problems here). This is why we are looking at higher net worth individuals and family sizes. Often the ICA will request a more detailed listing of extended family for no other reason than to estimate the possible collateral damage of giving someone PR. This, and the penchant for not including children, more specifically, male children, will also cause a rejection as then it is pretty obvious that the applicant is taking up PR just to abuse the status and has no intention of becoming a "Permanent" Resident here, but just wants to abuse the system/benefits. You countrymen before you have well and truly screwed it up for all that follow and are doing so in virtually every country that they venture to, giving all a pretty bad rep.

I reckon you would have to be here for at least 3 years before applying for PR and a lot can happen in that three years, as the country tries to regain it's traditional demographics that were skewed during the Y2K and subsequent IT hub push where Indians were let in for their IT prowess in numbers that were mind boggling at the time. Unfortunately, this is when all the abuse started as well. Lot's of Indian PRs are not even in Singapore and haven't been for some time, as they tend to go around collection PR in various countries. Most countries are wising up now, If you have been out of the country for 3 of the 5 years on the re-entry permit, it's doubtful that it will be renewed.

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Re: PR for parents and Student visa for child??

Postby singaporeflyer » Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:24 am

Lailafamily wrote:Hi all,

We are hoping to move to Singapore and in time (1-2 years apply for our PR). However as we have a young son (2+ age only) we are unsure of where his future lies and are not too keen on tying him into our PR status as that will put him down for NS duty. If we continue to live and have our kids raised in Singapore we wld be proud to have our son do the NS, but given the fact that our long term stay there is very undecided we do not want to tie him in with it. Is it possible for us to apply and get a PR and he can get a student visa? WIll that allow him the benefits of studying there, or will he still be gauged as an international student?

Any advice appreciated!

Thanks!


Not fair to just look for the benefits without committing to be in Singapore forever. If you are just looking to be here for just the long term stay, you can be on an Employment Pass and your son can be on a Dependent Pass.

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Re: PR for parents and Student visa for child??

Postby vishalgupta2 » Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:28 am

You should NOT get PR to Singapore or any other country and will NOT be. You are exactly the kind of people who have caused the reputation of Indians to go so bad.

You don't even understand what PR is and you want it. You want to move ON from USA coz you are almost done with 6 years allowed on H1B and find a new place away from India.

Do you understand what PR is. PR is permanent resident and should only be applied for once you have decided that Singapore (or any country for that matter) is where you want to live for the rest of your live.

It's totally unacceptable and unethical to even apply for a PR (leave alone get a PR) until you have made up your mind and are willing to commit to a country.

You need to understand the difference between a PR and a work permit (EP/H1/L1 etc).
Lailafamily wrote:Hi all,

We are hoping to move to Singapore and in time (1-2 years apply for our PR). However as we have a young son (2+ age only) we are unsure of where his future lies and are not too keen on tying him into our PR status as that will put him down for NS duty. If we continue to live and have our kids raised in Singapore we wld be proud to have our son do the NS, but given the fact that our long term stay there is very undecided we do not want to tie him in with it. Is it possible for us to apply and get a PR and he can get a student visa? WIll that allow him the benefits of studying there, or will he still be gauged as an international student?

Any advice appreciated!

Thanks!

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