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Postby Wd40 » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 4:03 pm

the lynx wrote:
Wd40 wrote:No, its just breathlessness, no ankle pain or anything.


Most likely it is your breathing habit. Some people, by habit, breathe shallowly or only use their nose all the time, etc.

Or you just have bad stamina. Build it up :P


Yeah, thanks. I just googled and found many people recommending the couch to 5k running program. Sounds like its for me. Going to try it.

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Postby zzm9980 » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 4:14 pm

Wd40 wrote:No, its just breathlessness, no ankle pain or anything.


Get a heart rate monitor to make sure you're doing it right, and just run/bike/whatever as slow as it takes to stay in the aerobic zone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobic_exercise

If you're running out of breath, you're going anaerobic or higher.

Go to a gym and use a treadmill with built-in heart rate monitor to get the hang of it if you're too cheap to buy one for yourself.

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Postby x9200 » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 4:19 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
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Wd40 wrote:If you can run 2km you are fit already. I am talking about those that cant run even 500m. I belong to that category.

If your BMI is ok and you can not run even 500m you are either extremelly lazy or you need a doctor.


Or you have a 30 year history of gout that has made your ankles and knees crook!
:(

Then you need a doctor (translating = you have a medical condition).

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Postby Fortan » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 4:22 pm

the lynx wrote:^This

Do what you love for exercise, you never feel like you're exercising :P


This most likely does not include drinking beers.... which I love... :P

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Postby the lynx » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 4:38 pm

Fortan wrote:
the lynx wrote:^This

Do what you love for exercise, you never feel like you're exercising :P


This most likely does not include drinking beers.... which I love... :P


If expanding your gut size is an exercise, why not?

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Postby Fortan » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 4:56 pm

the lynx wrote:
Fortan wrote:
the lynx wrote:^This

Do what you love for exercise, you never feel like you're exercising :P


This most likely does not include drinking beers.... which I love... :P


If expanding your gut size is an exercise, why not?


I was thinking more about the arm bending and lifting exercise of it all :D Being in shape means several things. Round is a shape too ;)

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Postby Wd40 » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 4:58 pm

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Wd40 wrote:No, its just breathlessness, no ankle pain or anything.


Get a heart rate monitor to make sure you're doing it right, and just run/bike/whatever as slow as it takes to stay in the aerobic zone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobic_exercise

If you're running out of breath, you're going anaerobic or higher.

Go to a gym and use a treadmill with built-in heart rate monitor to get the hang of it if you're too cheap to buy one for yourself.


Wow! now thats getting a bit too technical. Geez, there is so much to it!

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Postby the lynx » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 5:03 pm

Swimming is a good one if you wanna avoid sports-related injuries...

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Postby zzm9980 » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 5:13 pm

Wd40 wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
Wd40 wrote:No, its just breathlessness, no ankle pain or anything.


Get a heart rate monitor to make sure you're doing it right, and just run/bike/whatever as slow as it takes to stay in the aerobic zone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobic_exercise

If you're running out of breath, you're going anaerobic or higher.

Go to a gym and use a treadmill with built-in heart rate monitor to get the hang of it if you're too cheap to buy one for yourself.


Wow! now thats getting a bit too technical. Geez, there is so much to it!


No, it's actually really easy once you try it once or twice. Basically you start to run out of breath as you exceed 80% of your heart capacity. If you stay in the 70-80% range, you increase your heart's capacity (just like exercising any other muscle).

Any exercise is better than none, but being efficient about it will help you see results with less pain in much less time. You're a DBA right? Wouldn't you cringe if query was just select whatever from *;? Sure, it would WORK, but how inefficient is that? :P

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 5:44 pm

x9200 wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
x9200 wrote:
Wd40 wrote:If you can run 2km you are fit already. I am talking about those that cant run even 500m. I belong to that category.

If your BMI is ok and you can not run even 500m you are either extremelly lazy or you need a doctor.


Or you have a 30 year history of gout that has made your ankles and knees crook!
:(

Then you need a doctor (translating = you have a medical condition).


Nope. No longer, the gout is under control, but the damage is already done (and when I was also carrying 25kg more than I needed to.)

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Postby Wd40 » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 5:45 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
Wd40 wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
Wd40 wrote:No, its just breathlessness, no ankle pain or anything.


Get a heart rate monitor to make sure you're doing it right, and just run/bike/whatever as slow as it takes to stay in the aerobic zone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobic_exercise

If you're running out of breath, you're going anaerobic or higher.

Go to a gym and use a treadmill with built-in heart rate monitor to get the hang of it if you're too cheap to buy one for yourself.


Wow! now thats getting a bit too technical. Geez, there is so much to it!


No, it's actually really easy once you try it once or twice. Basically you start to run out of breath as you exceed 80% of your heart capacity. If you stay in the 70-80% range, you increase your heart's capacity (just like exercising any other muscle).

Any exercise is better than none, but being efficient about it will help you see results with less pain in much less time. You're a DBA right? Wouldn't you cringe if query was just select whatever from *;? Sure, it would WORK, but how inefficient is that? :P


Thanks, yeah that does ring a bell :)

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Postby x9200 » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 5:52 pm

Yeah, maybe you just run too fast?

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Postby Wd40 » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 5:57 pm

No not too fast, just jogging.. It has to do with lack of stamina. I can tell by just looking at my biceps. Its softer than a lady's who never did any excercise and its thin as well. I cannot do more than 12 pushups in one set.

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Postby Addadude » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 6:20 pm

Hi Wd40.

The bad news is that if your body fat is 27.7%, you are indeed overweight, regardless of what your BMI states. It also means that you are carrying way less muscle mass than you should be.

The good news is you can easily do something about it with specific lifestyle changes. Unfortunately this doesn't mean vague things like promising yourself to eat healthier, jog to a shop further away from home, or walk up to your flat instead of taking the lift. You need to embark on a proper and above all consistent exercise and nutrition programme to make any significant change.

As Lynx said, it really doesn't matter how 'bad' your starting point is. For her, running 2 km was pretty pathetic. For you, it might be unimaginable. Big deal. Just start with something you can handle. If you keep at it, your fitness level will increase. (In my experience, cardiovascular fitness improves very fast when you keep on exercising regularly.)

I'd recommend beginning with 30 mins of fast walking at least 3 times a week. (NOT running - you clearly need to work up to that.) As a rough guide, you should be moving fast enough that you'd find it hard but not impossible to keep up a conversation. I personally find that it's best to do this in the morning. For one, it's cooler. For another, in the evening you'll be tired and it will be more tempting to find excuses to skip it "just for that day". With every week that passes, try to walk a greater distance in the same amount of time.

Next, you need to get cracking on a good strength building routine to build up your muscle mass. While you can Google bodyweight exercise routines that you can perform at home, it's still better to sign up with a gym and a personal trainer to show you the best exercises for your needs.

Along with cardiovascular fitness and muscle strength, you'll also need to work on flexibility. That's something a PT can take you through as part of your gym routine.

Finally there's the dietary component. That means cutting down on starchy carbs and upping the leafy carbs and (lean) protein you intake. Chicken and fish are the meats of choice. If you are a vegetarian, adequate protein consumption can be a problem however. (I'm afraid I don't have an answer to this one.)

Exercise - as opposed to sports - is arguably fairly boring. You can make it more interesting (and effective) by challenging yourself to do that bit better every week. As I mentioned with walking/running, you can try do go further in the same amount of time. With gym workouts I've found it very useful to keep a workout log where I note down the weights I use and the rep range. Every week I try to do that bit better - by either increasing the amount of reps with the same weight or, if I hit my target rep range the previous week, increasing the weight used. My workout log is essential to keep track of these numbers. It also acts as a great encouragement when you are feeling under motivated to compare where you are currently at to where you were a few months ago. (It also acts as a good kick up the arse when you've been slacking!)

Remember, the real key to achieve your goals is to be CONSISTENT.
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Postby Wd40 » Tue, 17 Sep 2013 6:32 pm

Thanks Addadude, thats a very sound advice.


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