Singapore Expats

Visa extension denied

Relocating, travelling or planning to make Singapore home? Discuss the criterias, passes or visa that is required.
Post Reply
abbym
Regular
Regular
Posts: 63
Joined: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 3:33 pm

Visa extension denied

Post by abbym » Tue, 03 Sep 2013 6:58 pm

I'm here with my boyfriend until the end of october (we hope) and on arrival (aug 5th) I got a 90 day visit pass (I guess because I'm british?) and he got just 30 days (canadian). The 30 days is almost up so he's applied online for extension and it was denied.

I think he has the option to go in person to ICA and apply, maybe with support from his employer. We thought maybe to just take a day trip to malaysia - would he get a new visa on re-entry? Would I be given a new visa also (I'd rather just keep my 90 day)? Or will we have to leave for five days if he wants a new visa?

I can't find any conclusive information on ICA or MOM website so would appreciate anyone who knows where I can find this info.

Thanks

User avatar
PNGMK
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 9284
Joined: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 9:06 pm
Answers: 11
Location: Sinkapore

Post by PNGMK » Tue, 03 Sep 2013 8:00 pm

Yes he might get a new visa by crossing over to MY but probably not for long. Perhaps plan a longer trip further away (Bangkok?) for a few days. Then he will most likely get another 30 days. Nothing guaranteed and his denial for an online extension won't help (and is worrying).

AngMoG
Reporter
Reporter
Posts: 609
Joined: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:39 am

Post by AngMoG » Tue, 03 Sep 2013 8:07 pm

Having his employer support will most likely only hurt, as it indicates that he has been working here while on a tourist visa. Which is essentially illegal - he should have applied for a business visa in that case.

The visa runs have apparently been met with much scrutiny lately... I still did it without problems 6 years ago, but things have changed since. He can try, but general advice is to go somewhere for approx 5 days, and then come back. And yes, you would also get a new visa, probably only for 30 days this time. There is some uncertainty here - you may get 90, 30 or even only 5 days visa on your next entry, it depends on the immigration officer and their internal policies

I would doubt, though, that he would be able to stay like this until end of October.

There is no real information on this on the ICA website because all those policies regarding visa extensions and re-issuance on re-entry are unofficial and, to a certain extent, up to the immigration officer to decide.

abbym
Regular
Regular
Posts: 63
Joined: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 3:33 pm

Post by abbym » Tue, 03 Sep 2013 10:28 pm

Thanks for your responses and advice. We've actually got a trip to bali booked friday-monday as well. We're going to try the malaysia trip tomorrow on the bus, hope that we get at least two days to then take our flight to bali and extend the trip there to be 5 days. Then, hope for better visas on our return.

As for his working here, he is still working for the company's UK branch, and being paid in the UK - just working out of their Singapore office temporarily.

Also I just asked what kind of questions were on the online extension application and it turns out that someone from his work did the application on his behalf - so not even sure what was entered that meant it was denied :s

User avatar
Saint
Director
Director
Posts: 3505
Joined: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 5:19 pm
Location: The Juban Stand, Boat Quay
Contact:

Re: Visa extension denied

Post by Saint » Wed, 04 Sep 2013 9:32 am

abbym wrote: I think he has the option to go in person to ICA and apply, maybe with support from his employer. We thought maybe to just take a day trip to malaysia - would he get a new visa on re-entry? Would I be given a new visa also (I'd rather just keep my 90 day)? Or will we have to leave for five days if he wants a new visa?

I can't find any conclusive information on ICA or MOM website so would appreciate anyone who knows where I can find this info.

Thanks
This doesn't quite make sense? The way I'm reading what you are say is he's working on a tourist pass?!

User avatar
ecureilx
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 9817
Joined: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 5:18 pm

Post by ecureilx » Wed, 04 Sep 2013 9:38 am

abbym wrote: Also I just asked what kind of questions were on the online extension application and it turns out that someone from his work did the application on his behalf - so not even sure what was entered that meant it was denied :s
Visa extensions have no questions .. just basic info and click, that's it .. (or the relationship with the person extending ? I forgot)

BTW, when you apply for an extension, now it states, should your visa be rejected, you will be away for more than 3 days .. it was discussed here ..

Take a look-see ...

User avatar
zzm9980
Governor
Governor
Posts: 6869
Joined: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 1:35 pm
Location: Once more unto the breach

Post by zzm9980 » Wed, 04 Sep 2013 3:02 pm

abbym wrote:Thanks for your responses and advice. We've actually got a trip to bali booked friday-monday as well. We're going to try the malaysia trip tomorrow on the bus, hope that we get at least two days to then take our flight to bali and extend the trip there to be 5 days. Then, hope for better visas on our return.
Is your flight to Bali from Malaysia? If you cross back over to go to Changi, that still counts against you. Conventional wisdom and advice often given is at least 5 days out of Singapore.

beppi
Manager
Manager
Posts: 1768
Joined: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:15 am
Location: Ahlongistan (O$P$)

Post by beppi » Wed, 04 Sep 2013 3:43 pm

abbym wrote:As for his working here, he is still working for the company's UK branch, and being paid in the UK - just working out of their Singapore office temporarily.
I am afraid he'd need a Singapore work pass to do this legally.

User avatar
PNGMK
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 9284
Joined: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 9:06 pm
Answers: 11
Location: Sinkapore

Post by PNGMK » Wed, 04 Sep 2013 3:46 pm

beppi wrote:
abbym wrote:As for his working here, he is still working for the company's UK branch, and being paid in the UK - just working out of their Singapore office temporarily.
I am afraid he'd need a Singapore work pass to do this legally.
It depends on the 'work'. There are some categories (meetings) that are ok.

User avatar
sundaymorningstaple
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 40555
Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 1:26 pm
Answers: 21
Location: Retired on the Little Red Dot

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 04 Sep 2013 3:54 pm

Unless he's here for 60 days or less and falls into one of the following categories.....

http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... fault.aspx

if he came on a 30 days visa I'm assuming the employer may have brought him over here possibly for the installation or QCing of an installation of specialized equipment. Or he could be here in one of the other categories.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

abbym
Regular
Regular
Posts: 63
Joined: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 3:33 pm

Post by abbym » Wed, 04 Sep 2013 6:44 pm

To update - We went over to JR today on the bus and had no problems. My 90 day pass was ended, and I got a fresh 90 days when I came back in. My partner also got a fresh 30 days. I'm definitely going to get him to talk to his work about him needing a work pass though - even if he categorises under an exemption (which I don't think he does looking at that link) we are here for 60+ days. I would have thought the singapore office would have told him all this at the start :s

User avatar
zzm9980
Governor
Governor
Posts: 6869
Joined: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 1:35 pm
Location: Once more unto the breach

Post by zzm9980 » Wed, 04 Sep 2013 7:35 pm

abbym wrote:To update - We went over to JR today on the bus and had no problems. My 90 day pass was ended, and I got a fresh 90 days when I came back in. My partner also got a fresh 30 days. I'm definitely going to get him to talk to his work about him needing a work pass though - even if he categorises under an exemption (which I don't think he does looking at that link) we are here for 60+ days. I would have thought the singapore office would have told him all this at the start :s
I'm surprised Canadians only get 30 days. Out of curiosity, what is his race?

User avatar
PNGMK
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 9284
Joined: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 9:06 pm
Answers: 11
Location: Sinkapore

Post by PNGMK » Wed, 04 Sep 2013 7:48 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
abbym wrote:To update - We went over to JR today on the bus and had no problems. My 90 day pass was ended, and I got a fresh 90 days when I came back in. My partner also got a fresh 30 days. I'm definitely going to get him to talk to his work about him needing a work pass though - even if he categorises under an exemption (which I don't think he does looking at that link) we are here for 60+ days. I would have thought the singapore office would have told him all this at the start :s
I'm surprised Canadians only get 30 days. Out of curiosity, what is his race?
I know what I'm betting...

User avatar
sundaymorningstaple
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 40555
Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 1:26 pm
Answers: 21
Location: Retired on the Little Red Dot

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 04 Sep 2013 8:46 pm

PNGMK wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
abbym wrote:To update - We went over to JR today on the bus and had no problems. My 90 day pass was ended, and I got a fresh 90 days when I came back in. My partner also got a fresh 30 days. I'm definitely going to get him to talk to his work about him needing a work pass though - even if he categorises under an exemption (which I don't think he does looking at that link) we are here for 60+ days. I would have thought the singapore office would have told him all this at the start :s
I'm surprised Canadians only get 30 days. Out of curiosity, what is his race?
I know what I'm betting...
I'm bettin' you lost that bet! ;-)

http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/sutra6 ... ish#653519
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

User avatar
zzm9980
Governor
Governor
Posts: 6869
Joined: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 1:35 pm
Location: Once more unto the breach

Post by zzm9980 » Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:01 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
PNGMK wrote:
zzm9980 wrote: I'm surprised Canadians only get 30 days. Out of curiosity, what is his race?
I know what I'm betting...
I'm bettin' you lost that bet! ;-)

http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/sutra6 ... ish#653519
Oh SMS, you're not implying a White Brit wouldn't date a subcontinental Canadian now, are you? :p

I'm going to bet he's white anyway, but I'm pretty smart and may have alternative sources of intel.

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “PR, Citizenship, Passes & Visas for Foreigners”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests