Singapore PR to wait 3 years to buy HDB resale flat

[kookaburrah]

I've come to the conclusion that TRE is created by cretins and populated by posters who are, for lack of a more descriptive term, genetic idiots.

Damn. It's good quotes like these that they should be so zealously copying.

[zzm9980]

Oh Mi Amigo, they're talking about you!

pot kettle bastard angmo.:
August 29, 2013 at 8:04 am (Quote)
your article had quota one mi amigo. fyi this bugger hate and bad mouth sgeans in the local expat forum. pot kettle b**s**d angmo. ptiu!

I'm not sure what they're saying, since they don't speak English on that forum. But I think he likes you.

[PNGMK]

I consider buying a HDB flat as a non SC to be a high risk decision. The chances of the winds changing and PR's being forced en masse to hand back or sell at a loss are increasing with every down tick in the PAP polling stats.

[Wd40]

I consider buying a HDB flat as a non SC to be a high risk decision. The chances of the winds changing and PR's being forced en masse to hand back or sell at a loss are increasing with every down tick in the PAP polling stats.

+1

[kookaburrah]

The double standard is astonishing.

For every SC complaining bitterly about being priced out of the HDB market, there are two who cashed in on the huge jump in prices, laughed all the way to the bank, and onward to their newly acquired condos.

The real gripe here is not that they can't buy a flat. Rather that they missed a seat on the gravy train.

[zzm9980]

The double standard is astonishing.

For every SC complaining bitterly about being priced out of the HDB market, there are two who cashed in on the huge jump in prices, laughed all the way to the bank, and onward to their newly acquired condos.

The real gripe here is not that they can't buy a flat. Rather that they missed a seat on the gravy train.

Only two in three? Probably more than that.

You're 100% right about the complainers being the have-nots that missed out.

[Wd40]

The double standard is astonishing.

For every SC complaining bitterly about being priced out of the HDB market, there are two who cashed in on the huge jump in prices, laughed all the way to the bank, and onward to their newly acquired condos.

The real gripe here is not that they can't buy a flat. Rather that they missed a seat on the gravy train.

Only two in three? Probably more than that.

You're 100% right about the complainers being the have-nots that missed out.

and yet only 60% voted in favour last time, means many of those who did make a killing were unhappy with the quantum

[zzm9980]

and yet only 60% voted in favour last time, means many of those who did make a killing were unhappy with the quantum

Kiasu la. Some of them voted with the "have nots", because if the opposition won they wanted to be on the winning side

Or, they voted on other issues. You know, they can't afford the 3-series after they buy the condo so need vote opposition.

[AngMoG]

I consider buying a HDB flat as a non SC to be a high risk decision. The chances of the winds changing and PR's being forced en masse to hand back or sell at a loss are increasing with every down tick in the PAP polling stats.

+1

Another +1 from me. Risky at best, especially when one gets an "offer you cannot refuse" (becoming SC).

[Mi Amigo]

Oh Mi Amigo, they're talking about you!

pot kettle bastard angmo.:
August 29, 2013 at 8:04 am (Quote)
your article had quota one mi amigo. fyi this bugger hate and bad mouth sgeans in the local expat forum. pot kettle b**s**d angmo. ptiu!

I'm not sure what they're saying, since they don't speak English on that forum. But I think he likes you.

Well I guess they've just proved my assertion about the hatred of all foreigners right there. I was tempted to register on TRE in order to rebut the allegations made against me, but TBH I don't want to have anything to do with a site that allows such blatant xenophobic abuse. In any case, it seems that the site is currently down for 'unscheduled maintenance', so perhaps one of their 'copy & paste' specialists might like to take the following text and insert it into the relevant thread (or of course they may choose not to):

To the TRE community:
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Recognising that there are genuine grievances within the Singaporean community, I understand why alternative social media sites are being used to express opinions. However I'm immensely disappointed that the opportunity for sensible, open and reasoned debate has been largely squandered and replaced by vitriolic and often racist diatribes against non-Singaporeans. No person or group of people is perfect, yet when I read the comments on TRE it seems that many feel they are the 'victims' of presumed atrocious actions of the government and all foreigners living here, without whom everything would supposedly be just wonderful. I ask you to think calmly and objectively about your comments and attitudes, and consider whether they really are rational.

I am accused of 'hating' and bad-mouthing Singaporeans, yet you are the ones calling me a bugger, a bastard and a parasite, and telling me and other foreigners to f**k off. If you were to carefully read the comments made by me and others on Singapore Expats board, you will see that (unlike on TRE) we do not spout hatred and abusive comments about anyone (such behaviour is prohibited by the rules of the board). However, I and others have (and will continue to) point out some home truths about various things that happen here, however uncomfortable you might find them to read.

And if you read more of what is actually written in the relevant SE board threads, you will realise that the regular posters actually share your dislike of PR abusers. I myself am supportive of the change in rules for HDB purchases by new PRs, and I even stated this in the thread that you selectively quoted from. Yet for some reason, you seem to adopt an aggressive one-dimensional view that all foreigners are parasites and should be kicked out. I'm afraid this attitude just doesn't make any sense for the future of Singapore.

I moved here with my family nearly a decade ago because my employer wanted me to set up an Asia Pacific HQ operation. Since then we have provided well-paid jobs to a modest but significant number of Singaporeans. We have contributed, personally and professionally, to the Singaporean economy. I don't own an HDB flat, but I have put substantial sums of money into the pockets of various Singaporean landlords over many years. My wife has engaged in many cultural activities with Singaporeans and other residents here; this has not been done for profit, but out of a desire to share her music and dance traditions with the wider community.

Of course we are not expecting any thanks for anything we have done - until recently we have thoroughly enjoyed living here and benefiting from the many positive things that Singapore has to offer. However, due to the kind of comments that we are reading on a regular basis, my wife and I now feel more unwelcome in this country than in any of the other places we have lived around the world. Maybe we will take the advice on TRE (and elsewhere), and 'f**k off' before too long - this may please you but think about the implications for the economy and jobs if everyone did that.

Consider this - if my company and I were today considering where to base our initial Asian office, a quick Google search and a read of the comments on sites like TRE would most likely make us reconsider whether Singapore is the right place to invest and create jobs.

As it says in my signature below, be careful what you wish for. This virulent hatred should have no place in a country that considers itself a civilised 'first world' community.

[bro75]

regarding the above post,

they may not post it there, it is just too logical.

[Wd40]

Nicely written post there, Mi Amigo.

[Mi Amigo]

Thanks WD40.

bro75, TBH it doesn't bother me one iota whether or not the above text gets copied over to TRE. My comments are here for those who want to read them; whether they will actually make anyone *think* about their actions and attitudes is another thing, but I've made my point anyway.

[morenangpinay]

i've been featured there couple times too
Anyway you need to post that again in bullet point...or they won't get it.

[blue_thunder]

However, due to the kind of comments that we are reading on a regular basis, my wife and I now feel more unwelcome in this country than in any of the other places we have lived around the world. Maybe we will take the advice on TRE (and elsewhere), and 'f**k off' before too long - this may please you but think about the implications for the economy and jobs if everyone did that.

+1.
Felt the same before moving back from Europe but moved here anyway. Will definitely move back if the situation goes from bad to worse..