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WSJ report on PRC bus driver strike, and foreigner reliance
WSJ report on PRC bus driver strike, and foreigner reliance
I just started reading it, but pretty interesting so far...
Part 1:
http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2013 ... estigation
Part 2:
http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2013/0 ... od=WSJBlog
Part 3...
http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2013/0 ... od=WSJBlog
Part 4
http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2013/0 ... od=WSJBlog
Part 5:
http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2013/0 ... od=WSJBlog
Part 1:
http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2013 ... estigation
Part 2:
http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2013/0 ... od=WSJBlog
Part 3...
http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2013/0 ... od=WSJBlog
Part 4
http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2013/0 ... od=WSJBlog
Part 5:
http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2013/0 ... od=WSJBlog
Last edited by zzm9980 on Fri, 30 Aug 2013 10:18 am, edited 5 times in total.
I was far more interested in the heavy handling of the volunteer migrant support workers.... and how, once again, Singaporean's are so ignorant of their own constitutional rights and how easily cowed they are (ignoring of course the 'emergency act' that has been continually renewed since the 50's that is the basis of law for this sort of stuff).
Part 2:
http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2013/0 ... od=WSJBlog
Covers complaints and SMRT's treatment of the Chinese. Apparently SMRT fires anyone that complains and used to confiscate passports until MOM intervenes.
http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2013/0 ... od=WSJBlog
Covers complaints and SMRT's treatment of the Chinese. Apparently SMRT fires anyone that complains and used to confiscate passports until MOM intervenes.
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I reckon we'll see the WSJ in court for besmirching Singapore's good name. Again. Looks like they are doing a good job so far though.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
Well, relatively speaking Singaporeans are better than PRCs, Taiwanese, Japanese, Koreans etc in their English skills.Mi Amigo wrote:Interesting article(s). I did have a little giggle at the comment about Singaporeans complaining that folks from the PRC have a 'weak grasp of English'. Hmmm. Pot, kettle, etc...?
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You will notice that they don't say anything about the PRC's weak command of Mandarin, considering the locals only are able to manage Sindarin and that, apparently just about as badly as the Singlish.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
I have, however, come across cases where Singaporeans complain that they have been looked down upon by PRCs for their poor mandarin skills.sundaymorningstaple wrote:You will notice that they don't say anything about the PRC's weak command of Mandarin, considering the locals only are able to manage Sindarin and that, apparently just about as badly as the Singlish.
Among my colleagues at the office, the best English speaker (and writer) is from China. Maybe that's an exception to prove the rule, but are your sure of the above blanket statement?Wd40 wrote:Well, relatively speaking Singaporeans are better than PRCs, Taiwanese, Japanese, Koreans etc in their English skills.
Be careful what you wish for
Yeah, there are exceptions. But if you pick an average chinese from even a top city like Beijing or Shanghai, I will be surprised if he/she can string an English sentence together.
If they could, they would have become a super power already with all the services outsourcing going to them instead of India and Philippines.
If they could, they would have become a super power already with all the services outsourcing going to them instead of India and Philippines.
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You will notice that damn few outsource to Singapore. That should tell you something as well.
Wd40, Well the PRC should look down on the lowly class of Mandarin they speak here. They look down on poor mandarin the same way as the Natural English speakers tend to look down on Singlish. Again, rightly so. Singaporeans are a jack of all trades (languages), but a master of none.
Wd40, Well the PRC should look down on the lowly class of Mandarin they speak here. They look down on poor mandarin the same way as the Natural English speakers tend to look down on Singlish. Again, rightly so. Singaporeans are a jack of all trades (languages), but a master of none.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
No, because in top cities like that they cost more money. You should really visit these places you make sweeping statements about. You would find Shanghai or Beijing, and its middle-class residents, more sophisticated than the comparable in Singapore.Wd40 wrote:Yeah, there are exceptions. But if you pick an average chinese from even a top city like Beijing or Shanghai, I will be surprised if he/she can string an English sentence together.
If they could, they would have become a super power already with all the services outsourcing going to them instead of India and Philippines.
I think we talked about this recently in another thread. The better educated Chinese who speak decent enough English will either A) Stay in China to make their fortune (Something you WD40 of all people should respect

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And I can't wait for the third article...zzm9980 wrote:To the articles...
They're interesting but tell us (expats here) mostly what we already know. I'm interested to see the conclusion a source like the WSJ comes to. Pro-business/PAP, or with the people/opposition? Or just leave it open ended.
This is like trying to catch a movie sequel!
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