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by g-shock » Sun, 18 Aug 2013 1:15 am
lol chillax, not an advert. I have the hardcopy notes to pass around for sharing. It mentions the points that people should have in their resume / cv. Could show it to you if you wanted.
Edit: the notes are from Citibank (disclaimer) not by me.
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by Mi Amigo » Sun, 18 Aug 2013 8:56 pm
g-shock wrote:lol chillax, not an advert. I have the hardcopy notes to pass around for sharing. It mentions the points that people should have in their resume / cv. Could show it to you if you wanted.
Edit: the notes are from Citibank (disclaimer) not by me.
In which case, surely they are the
property of Citi and therefore should not be passed to any third party without permission?
Be careful what you wish for
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by PNGMK » Sun, 18 Aug 2013 10:00 pm
Mi Amigo wrote:g-shock wrote:lol chillax, not an advert. I have the hardcopy notes to pass around for sharing. It mentions the points that people should have in their resume / cv. Could show it to you if you wanted.
Edit: the notes are from Citibank (disclaimer) not by me.
In which case, surely they are the
property of Citi and therefore should not be passed to any third party without permission?
You expect someone in Singapore to understand the concept of IP theft and plagiarism?
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by g-shock » Sun, 18 Aug 2013 10:35 pm
Hence the reason why i am offering it in hardcopy and not scanning and uploading it in a website. I am perfectly clear that it's Citibank's material and the reason they distributed it was to help people out with their resumes.
Edit: It's the same thing as borrowing a book from a friend. [I am just trying to do these people a favor, not to do myself a disfavor by going against any laws.]
Simply put, if everyone were to use the format by Citi, it would help their HR in sieving out talents as well. Citi is a bank and not some resume consultancy company. They dont do this as a living.
Edit: Also, it was free material that Citibank distributed at a resume sharing workshop for pointers that applicants should look out for. There were no terms and conditions attached when they gave us these materials.
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by g-shock » Sun, 18 Aug 2013 10:37 pm
PNGMK wrote:Mi Amigo wrote:g-shock wrote:lol chillax, not an advert. I have the hardcopy notes to pass around for sharing. It mentions the points that people should have in their resume / cv. Could show it to you if you wanted.
Edit: the notes are from Citibank (disclaimer) not by me.
In which case, surely they are the
property of Citi and therefore should not be passed to any third party without permission?
You expect someone in Singapore to understand the concept of IP theft and plagiarism?
I am sure i understand it better than you. I don't see why the discrimination against Singaporeans or people living in Singapore and I hope you take the time to read my explanation since i just explained myself in the post above.
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by brian_singapore » Mon, 19 Aug 2013 7:45 am
beppi wrote:He asked what is the norm, not what makes sense.
Wellll .... yes - but advice on when to follow the nor and when not would be appreciated.
I'm looking for advice on customizing my singapore CV(s) so they won't be auto-rejected because they don't have key elements that are expected (beyond matching the job).
Thanks everyone for the posts. Really appreciated the help.
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by PNGMK » Mon, 19 Aug 2013 8:40 am
g-shock wrote:PNGMK wrote:Mi Amigo wrote:
In which case, surely they are the
property of Citi and therefore should not be passed to any third party without permission?
You expect someone in Singapore to understand the concept of IP theft and plagiarism?
I am sure i understand it better than you. I don't see why the discrimination against Singaporeans or people living in Singapore and I hope you take the time to read my explanation since i just explained myself in the post above.
As a peer reviewed author of numerous papers and the holder of patents and a global worker I can assure you I have seen far more plagiarism in Singapore than my home country.
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by x9200 » Mon, 19 Aug 2013 9:10 am
g-shock wrote:Hence the reason why i am offering it in hardcopy and not scanning and uploading it in a website. I am perfectly clear that it's Citibank's material and the reason they distributed it was to help people out with their resumes.
Depending on the number of copies you handed over it can be exactly the same.
Edit: It's the same thing as borrowing a book from a friend. [I am just trying to do these people a favor, not to do myself a disfavor by going against any laws.]
Are these the materials already published or they are just internal documents of the Citibank?
Simply put, if everyone were to use the format by Citi, it would help their HR in sieving out talents as well. Citi is a bank and not some resume consultancy company. They dont do this as a living.
Edit: Also, it was free material that Citibank distributed at a resume sharing workshop for pointers that applicants should look out for. There were no terms and conditions attached when they gave us these materials.
IP is protected by law without any disclaimer nor any formal action of the authors to enable the protection necessary. Citibank has right to distribute it as they are the owners of the IP. You are not.
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by g-shock » Mon, 19 Aug 2013 8:05 pm
x9200 wrote:g-shock wrote:Hence the reason why i am offering it in hardcopy and not scanning and uploading it in a website. I am perfectly clear that it's Citibank's material and the reason they distributed it was to help people out with their resumes.
Depending on the number of copies you handed over it can be exactly the same.
Edit: It's the same thing as borrowing a book from a friend. [I am just trying to do these people a favor, not to do myself a disfavor by going against any laws.]
Are these the materials already published or they are just internal documents of the Citibank?
Simply put, if everyone were to use the format by Citi, it would help their HR in sieving out talents as well. Citi is a bank and not some resume consultancy company. They dont do this as a living.
Edit: Also, it was free material that Citibank distributed at a resume sharing workshop for pointers that applicants should look out for. There were no terms and conditions attached when they gave us these materials.
IP is protected by law without any disclaimer nor any formal action of the authors to enable the protection necessary. Citibank has right to distribute it as they are the owners of the IP. You are not.
Let me just do a quick clarification here. I can assure you all that I am neither offering any services related to resume writing nor attempting to profit off these notes. My intention was merely to share the notes with members on the forum. Evidently this sharing has raised questions regarding IP rights and plagiarism, and since there been such concerns the sharing will no longer be available.
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by g-shock » Mon, 19 Aug 2013 8:11 pm
As a peer reviewed author of numerous papers and the holder of patents and a global worker I can assure you I have seen far more plagiarism in Singapore than my home country.[/quote]
Thank you for sharing your notable credentials. I am sure then that you have more knowledge than me on the subject. I am not trying to take credit from Citi nor profiteering off it, i hope you take a step back and see where i am coming from and the reasons why i am sharing these notes. It's one thing to know about plagiarism and another when you apply it and accuse others of plagiarism without considering the circumstances.
I do not wish to generate any more debate on this issue and hence i will stop sharing the hardcopy of the notes.
Thank you for your feedback.
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by x9200 » Tue, 20 Aug 2013 9:00 am
g-shock wrote:Let me just do a quick clarification here. I can assure you all that I am neither offering any services related to resume writing nor attempting to profit off these notes. My intention was merely to share the notes with members on the forum. Evidently this sharing has raised questions regarding IP rights and plagiarism, and since there been such concerns the sharing will no longer be available.
I can belive you but the only difference comparing to the profit gaining use may be the severity of the punishment. For profit or not it is still a criminal offense to distribute (publish) IP protected materials without the permission of the (c) holder. I doubt in a case like this anybody will be after you, but just consider.
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by kookaburrah » Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:08 am
I really don't understand why people will always rather mistrust people's intentions here, than take their statements at face value.
We're talking about a piddling document on CV writing tips, not the launch codes. Surely we can reserve the sanctimony of our high horses for more appropriate occasions.
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by PNGMK » Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:12 am
kookaburrah wrote:I really don't understand why people will always rather mistrust people's intentions here, than take their statements at face value.
We're talking about a piddling document on CV writing tips, not the launch codes. Surely we can reserve the sanctimony of our high horses for more appropriate occasions.
I think this forum has had issues with accusations about IP theft in it's past. Hence the sensitivity.
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by x9200 » Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:40 am
It's hardly about intentions mistrust. I have no problem with giving the credit. Criminal conviction can mess up somebody's life pretty seriously so even if the likelihood is low I'd rather step in. Surely it is more convenient just to ignore.
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by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:05 pm
PNGMK wrote:kookaburrah wrote:I really don't understand why people will always rather mistrust people's intentions here, than take their statements at face value.
We're talking about a piddling document on CV writing tips, not the launch codes. Surely we can reserve the sanctimony of our high horses for more appropriate occasions.
I think this forum has had issues with accusations about IP theft in it's past. Hence the sensitivity.
^^This.
This is why we cannot post any cut & pastes or even URL links to anything that is produced or owned by Singapore Press Holdings. Commonly referred to as the daily birdcage liner. The Admins were sent a legal cease & desist order. Therefore we ARE sensitive about IP theft here. Please understand.
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