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Postby kooltilldend » Sun, 28 Jul 2013 6:39 pm

Hi y'all,

I have a quick question for those of you in the know:

My short term pass expires on 31st July (in 3 days!) and I applied for a Long Term Pass extension about 15 days earlier

Unfortunately, my LTVP application is still under processing ("receiving attention") and I'm fast running out of time

Now I was wondering, can I remain in Singapore while my application is under processing? Or do I strictly have to leave on 31st July?

I've also heard that the application will most likely get rejected if I leave Singapore while its under processing (which makes sense)

So then can anyone suggest what are my options? Is there an extension I can apply for while my application is under processing? Or can I simply remain here until I get a response from ICA?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 28 Jul 2013 8:12 pm

How did you get your short term SVP? Was it the result of a cancellation of an Employment Pass or Work Permit? If so, you will have to leave the country. Actually, you have to leave the country in either case if your LTVP hasn't been approved. Overstaying your current visa will get you free accommodation in Changi Prison for a while, so please don't even think along those lines.

You only option is to make a visit first thing tomorrow morning (early as the line get long fast) at ICA at Kallang) to see what options are available. (if your current visa is the result of an cancelled work pass, save your trip as you have to leave the country as those passes are not extendable)

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Postby kooltilldend » Sun, 28 Jul 2013 8:34 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:How did you get your short term SVP? Was it the result of a cancellation of an Employment Pass or Work Permit? If so, you will have to leave the country. Actually, you have to leave the country in either case if your LTVP hasn't been approved. Overstaying your current visa will get you free accommodation in Changi Prison for a while, so please don't even think along those lines.

You only option is to make a visit first thing tomorrow morning (early as the line get long fast) at ICA at Kallang) to see what options are available. (if your current visa is the result of an cancelled work pass, save your trip as you have to leave the country as those passes are not extendable)


Yes my STVP is a result of ep being cancelled

The LTVP I applied for is Institute of Higher Learning - which I'm qualified for (since I studied in NTU)

I am not planning to stay here if I'm not allowed to but its pretty lame that I'll have to leave without getting a response about my pass being approved/rejected

Guess I've got some long hours next 3 days if I have to leave the country for good on 31st (not to mention I need to buy a ticket!)

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:27 pm

Yeah, it's a bit of a bummer, but there are no extensions allowed on the SVP granted at the end of the EP.

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Postby kooltilldend » Sun, 28 Jul 2013 10:33 pm

Oh well, if this is how it is then so be it

Now I just need to sell off this TV and start packing my luggage

This whole thing stinks but I'm getting used to it

Thanks for all the help!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:12 pm

While I've never hear of anybody ever getting an extension on the 30 Days end of EP SVP, I still think it would be worth a couple of hours tomorrow morning to show up on ICA doorstep just to get an absolute no, or something/anything with a little extended time in it. They may well advise a trip to BKK for 5 day holiday. It would be worth the time to find out. If you go in expecting nothing, anything else is a bonus!

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Postby kooltilldend » Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:35 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:While I've never hear of anybody ever getting an extension on the 30 Days end of EP SVP, I still think it would be worth a couple of hours tomorrow morning to show up on ICA doorstep just to get an absolute no, or something/anything with a little extended time in it. They may well advise a trip to BKK for 5 day holiday. It would be worth the time to find out. If you go in expecting nothing, anything else is a bonus!


Yeah that's pretty much my last resort at this point

I'm not really sure who to talk at ICA tomorrow so I'll call them first

Frankly I don't have any expectations at this point so we'll just have to wait n see I suppose

Wish me luck!

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 29 Jul 2013 9:04 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:While I've never hear of anybody ever getting an extension on the 30 Days end of EP SVP, I still think it would be worth a couple of hours tomorrow morning to show up on ICA doorstep just to get an absolute no, or something/anything with a little extended time in it.


The only case for extension of SVP after EP cancellation is / was, if the spouse is a resident here, go with the marriage cert etc. and get another 30 day .. and for others, yes, SMS is correct from what I know so far ..

Yes it doesn't hurt to step in and ask ICA ..

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Postby kooltilldend » Mon, 29 Jul 2013 2:45 pm

So time for a quick update:

I did call and then visit (upon their recommendation) ICA earlier today and well much to nobody's surprise, was told that I need a STVP extension in order to stay in Singapore and that I can't "just" apply for it

But wait...its not that simple (here's where things get somewhat interesting - don't help me one bit but might help someone in the future)

I can still apply for a STVP extension IF I can find a local sponsor (anybody wanna sponsor a random online stranger living in Singapore? Figured not) and that my application will still be processed while I'm abroad

Obviously I've read a number of cases here about what happens to a LTVP once the person leaves the country so I am currently holding no hope of getting the LTVP approved now.

Instead now I'm wholly focused on selling this TV, buying a ticket to Thailand/India tomorrow and getting the hell out of here

Its been fun (not really) while it lasted...good luck to anyone else facing a similar situation as me.

All I'll say is apply for a LTVP, the day you leave your job...they say 10 days is enough but that's a lie...my application has already taken more than 15 days and now I'm SOL

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Postby yogaloungeforever » Mon, 29 Jul 2013 2:50 pm

Have you thought of hopping across the causeway to get a 30 / 90 day extension?

sundaymorningstaple, he can go for this option right?
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Postby kooltilldend » Mon, 29 Jul 2013 3:00 pm

I don't think that works for those who had a STVP after employment like I have (which expires in 2 days)...also I believe, one has to spend atleast 5-7 days abroad before I can reapply for a tourist pass

Anyways, quite frankly I don't find it valuable anymore and I'm pretty sick and tired of the shuffling around

If there are no good jobs left here (that are appropriate for me) then what's the point of all this hassling anyways...just not worth it

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 29 Jul 2013 3:08 pm

He could try the causeway bit, but unless he was gone for a week, he'd probably be only given 2 or 3 days to collect his belongings and leave the country along with a possible 6 month ban before he could return. They have really tightened up on tourist visas being used a residency visas, especially with the cheap costs of staying in the neighbouring countries like JB & Batam. Additionally, I have a feeling that he would be told upon exiting the country via land/boat, that he would not be allowed to reenter the country in the space of a couple of days unless he was from that particular country, otherwise the reason for the trip at the absolute end of your visa is pretty obvious. Dey ain't stupid.

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Postby kooltilldend » Mon, 29 Jul 2013 3:23 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:He could try the causeway bit, but unless he was gone for a week, he'd probably be only given 2 or 3 days to collect his belongings and leave the country along with a possible 6 month ban before he could return. They have really tightened up on tourist visas being used a residency visas, especially with the cheap costs of staying in the neighbouring countries like JB & Batam. Additionally, I have a feeling that he would be told upon exiting the country via land/boat, that he would not be allowed to reenter the country in the space of a couple of days unless he was from that particular country, otherwise the reason for the trip at the absolute end of your visa is pretty obvious. Dey ain't stupid.


I think once I leave the country then the effect (whatever it may be) on the LTVP will already take place - as such, coming back on the 30 day tourist pass would be pointless (as far as the LTVP approval goes)

I might as well wait till I hear one way or the other about what happens with my LTVP application before I plan anything about returning to Singapore (although again I don't expect my LTVP application to be approved once I've left SG so this is a bit of a moot point)

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Postby kooltilldend » Tue, 13 Aug 2013 7:25 pm

Ok guys latest update:

So in the end, I did have to leave SG end of July (and I did) and am on a "mini" vacation in India now

In the mean time somehow my LTVP got approved in principle today (I didn't expect it tbh but there you go) and now I have to come back to SG before 27th to get the LTVP (complete waste of trip having to leave SG but that's an altogether different can of worms)

So I come back to you gurus with 3 new questions:

1) In order to come back to SG, I need to get a tourist pass right?

2) Do you guys know how long it'll take from in-principle approval (ie now) to the point where I will get the LTVP card? I'll need to figure out accommodation for myself again as I've already left my rented place in SG (obviously)

3) The LTVP is a multiple entry pass right? As I (hopefully) intend to come back to India/Thailand temporarily after collecting the LTVP

Hope some of you will be able to clarify things further

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Postby Wd40 » Tue, 13 Aug 2013 8:22 pm

Congratulations!

1) The IPA for EPs and DPs have a Short term Visit pass embedded in them. I am not sure if that is the case with LTSVP as well. Read the IPA and check what it says.

2)You take an appointment for the stamping/submission of docs and after that 1 week you should have the pass.

3)Yes. Multiple entry visa is optional and you need to pay $30 extra for it.


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