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Citizenship Chances

Post by vr » Tue, 23 Jul 2013 5:10 pm

Hi all,

I have been following this forum since the past couple of months. I would like to seek opinions on the chances.

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Indian, 33 yrs, been here since 2006 (7yrs), studied MBA for 2 yrs, PR for 4yrs+, married for 2 and a half years (no kids yet), wife on S-pass. Can't apply citizenship with wife as her PR was rejected when we tried 2 years ago.

I left my previous job with a large local company after working for nearly 5 years and am currently self-employed (no fixed income). Last NOA declared was around $88K (incl variable component).

Interview is scheduled next month.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 23 Jul 2013 5:57 pm

Good Luck.

You are going to need it. Lot's of it, I fear.
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Post by vr » Tue, 23 Jul 2013 10:54 pm

Thanks SMS for ur reply. I think I could have waited for a couple of years more however wanted to give it a shot. I am stepping into a new phase of life too, don't know if that would worsen the situation.

My REP is due for renewal next year. From urs (and other group member's past experience), will it impact my REP renewal application? (Esp now I am self employed now and NOA wont be as healthy as last couple of years).

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:41 pm

As long as you can show that your self-employment is showing a suitable profit and taxes and medisave contribution are being paid, it shouldn't be too much of a problem unless were only talking about 20K or so income. then it might.
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Post by vr » Wed, 24 Jul 2013 1:00 pm

Thanks sms. My main worry is since my REP will expire next year, I have to apply for renewal by the end of this year (3-6 months). I wouldn't be paying any taxes and medisave for this year by then. CPF board sent a letter about my medisave contribution to be paid by next year May based on estimated income and will advise me again on the exact amounts to be paid.

Has anyone encountered this situation before? Will it help since I was employed until Apr this yr (my est salary incl bonus/variable component should be around $30-35K)

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Post by AngMoG » Wed, 24 Jul 2013 1:34 pm

Just to summarize:
- you worked until April this year, with annual income about $88K (which is quite good)
- Since then, you are self-employed

I guess it all hinges on how well your self-employment works out, i.e. how much you will earn from it. If the revenue there is very low, it may be a problem - at least I would see it as one if I were in ICA. It looks like your SC application may have been premature in this case, seeing as your new self-employment has just started and isn't established yet. And also seeing as you're in your first PR cycle still, where it is often pointed out on this board that it would be best to wait until the second cycle (5+ years as PR) to apply for SC.

Then again, nothing ventured, nothing gained, so good luck!

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Post by vr » Wed, 24 Jul 2013 1:59 pm

AngMoG wrote:Just to summarize:
- you worked until April this year, with annual income about $88K (which is quite good)
- Since then, you are self-employed

I guess it all hinges on how well your self-employment works out, i.e. how much you will earn from it. If the revenue there is very low, it may be a problem - at least I would see it as one if I were in ICA. It looks like your SC application may have been premature in this case, seeing as your new self-employment has just started and isn't established yet. And also seeing as you're in your first PR cycle still, where it is often pointed out on this board that it would be best to wait until the second cycle (5+ years as PR) to apply for SC.

Then again, nothing ventured, nothing gained, so good luck!
Thanks for ur reply. Actually NOA for 2012 was around $88K. Since I was in a sales job, variable component holds a big chunk (can say close to 40-45%)

My this year's take away was around $35K until Apr (incl bonuses).

We have decided to stay in Singapore for long term thats why thought of trying. I cant apply with my spouse now cos she is not a PR yet. When we applied for her PR in 2011, it might be have been too early since she wasn't working and we were married for only 6 months then.

Apart from the citizenship application, which it seems the chances are not too great at the moment, I had another concern on the renewal of REP. Will my self-employment be considered as something -ve? Has anyone been in this situation before?

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Post by vr » Wed, 31 Jul 2013 3:55 pm

vr wrote:Apart from the citizenship application, which it seems the chances are not too great at the moment, I had another concern on the renewal of REP. Will my self-employment be considered as something -ve? Has anyone been in this situation before?
Any thoughts on the above?

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Post by calvink » Thu, 01 Aug 2013 4:37 pm

Hmm......foreigner becomes Singaporean.....that's a tough decision if own country has no problems in job opportunity but less tough of a decision if you're facing difficulty feeding yourself and family in your own country...

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Post by vr » Thu, 01 Aug 2013 10:24 pm

calvink wrote:Hmm......foreigner becomes Singaporean.....that's a tough decision if own country has no problems in job opportunity but less tough of a decision if you're facing difficulty feeding yourself and family in your own country...
Sometimes, there could be other reasons too apart from only monetary benefits. In this globalized world, its quite common in this generation for people to migrate and its going to be this way in future too. I want to give u a benefit of doubt maybe u haven't travelled enough to meet such people yet!

Coming back to my original question, I would welcome if someone can advise me on my REP repercussions..

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