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Posted: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:40 pm
by sundaymorningstaple
I'm still in Singapore. I've been here over 30 years now. My son is 24 & daughter is 29. Both born in the old KK hospital.

Posted: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:50 pm
by Aomory
Well I was born at the old KK hospital nothing wrong with that.

Posted: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:53 pm
by Strong Eagle
Is your son a US citizen? If not, perhaps you could work to having his green card revoked which would require him to return to Singapore.

Posted: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:01 pm
by Aomory
[His a Spore citizen. His green card is expiring in 3 years

Posted: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:43 pm
by Strong Eagle
Aomory wrote:[His a Singapore citizen. His green card is expiring in 3 years
Perhaps the threat of losing his US PR for not doing NS in Singapore might motivate him. The US might not look favorably upon an immigrant not doing their legally required service in their own country.

Posted: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 2:57 am
by Aomory
With regards to US might not look favorably upon an immigrant.. well i spoke to a lawyer here in the US, according to them he will not have a problem being a US citizen.
Strong Eagle wrote:
Aomory wrote:[His a Singapore citizen. His green card is expiring in 3 years
Perhaps the threat of losing his US PR for not doing NS in Singapore might motivate him. The US might not look favorably upon an immigrant not doing their legally required service in their own country.
:-|

Posted: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 3:22 am
by PNGMK
Aomory wrote:With regards to US might not look favorably upon an immigrant.. well i spoke to a lawyer here in the US, according to them he will not have a problem being a US citizen.
Strong Eagle wrote:
Aomory wrote:[His a Singapore citizen. His green card is expiring in 3 years
Perhaps the threat of losing his US PR for not doing NS in Singapore might motivate him. The US might not look favorably upon an immigrant not doing their legally required service in their own country.
:-|
I guess you could stay in the US and ignore the whole thing... except your sureties will suffer. I don't understand why you put up a bond - I guess Singapore threatended to cancel his passport?

Posted: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 4:25 am
by Aomory
PNGMK wrote:
Aomory wrote:With regards to US might not look favorably upon an immigrant.. well i spoke to a lawyer here in the US, according to them he will not have a problem being a US citizen.
Strong Eagle wrote: Perhaps the threat of losing his US PR for not doing NS in Singapore might motivate him. The US might not look favorably upon an immigrant not doing their legally required service in their own country.
:-|
I guess you could stay in the US and ignore the whole thing... except your sureties will suffer. I don't understand why you put up a bond - I guess Singapore threatended to cancel his passport?

Posted: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 4:27 am
by Aomory
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Singapore passport expired 3 years ago. He got a temporary passport which is expiring next week. The bond was an honest mistake, I guess I was scared by the threat

quote="Aomory"]
PNGMK wrote:
Aomory wrote:With regards to US might not look favorably upon an immigrant.. well i spoke to a lawyer here in the US, according to them he will not have a problem being a US citizen.
Strong Eagle wrote: Perhaps the threat of losing his US PR for not doing NS in Singapore might motivate him. The US might not look favorably upon an immigrant not doing their legally required service in their own country.
:-|
I guess you could stay in the US and ignore the whole thing... except your sureties will suffer. I don't understand why you put up a bond - I guess Singapore threatended to cancel his passport?
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Posted: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 2:11 pm
by PNGMK
Aomory wrote:[
Singapore passport expired 3 years ago. He got a temporary passport which is expiring next week. The bond was an honest mistake, I guess I was scared by the threat

quote="Aomory"]
PNGMK wrote:
Aomory wrote:With regards to US might not look favorably upon an immigrant.. well i spoke to a lawyer here in the US, according to them he will not have a problem being a US citizen.
:-|
I guess you could stay in the US and ignore the whole thing... except your sureties will suffer. I don't understand why you put up a bond - I guess Singapore threatended to cancel his passport?
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Damn - what a mistake. You could have stayed in the US without a valid passport for him until he had US citizenship. Well now you need him to understand the consequences of not doing NS and get him on a plane in less that a week, is that correct?

Posted: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 2:34 pm
by ecureilx
PNGMK wrote:Damn - what a mistake. You could have stayed in the US without a valid passport for him until he had US citizenship. Well now you need him to understand the consequences of not doing NS and get him on a plane in less that a week, is that correct?
Mistake ? Threatened ? Well, let me say, from what I know from only 1 case ..

You don't get a choice - either bring the kid back or sign the bond ..

Casually talking with some friends, the reaction was different - one group said, the kid must come here .. than burn his father, and the other, let the kid do what he likes ..

Well, for the second, I remember one of the NS defaulter had to come back to attend to some funeral or something .. not a wise decision, if you ask me, to default let things go to hell..

Posted: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 3:29 pm
by PNGMK
ecureilx wrote:
PNGMK wrote:Damn - what a mistake. You could have stayed in the US without a valid passport for him until he had US citizenship. Well now you need him to understand the consequences of not doing NS and get him on a plane in less that a week, is that correct?
Mistake ? Threatened ? Well, let me say, from what I know from only 1 case ..

You don't get a choice - either bring the kid back or sign the bond ..

Casually talking with some friends, the reaction was different - one group said, the kid must come here .. than burn his father, and the other, let the kid do what he likes ..

Well, for the second, I remember one of the NS defaulter had to come back to attend to some funeral or something .. not a wise decision, if you ask me, to default let things go to hell..
No there is a third choice. The Singapore govt can't really sue you if you're overseas. So yes - you can default.

Posted: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 9:03 pm
by Aomory
PNGMK wrote:
ecureilx wrote:
PNGMK wrote:Damn - what a mistake. You could have stayed in the US without a valid passport for him until he had US citizenship. Well now you need him to understand the consequences of not doing NS and get him on a plane in less that a week, is that correct?
Mistake ? Threatened ? Well, let me say, from what I know from only 1 case ..

You don't get a choice - either bring the kid back or sign the bond ..

Casually talking with some friends, the reaction was different - one group said, the kid must come here .. than burn his father, and the other, let the kid do what he likes ..

Well, for the second, I remember one of the NS defaulter had to come back to attend to some funeral or something .. not a wise decision, if you ask me, to default let things go to hell..
No there is a third choice. The Singapore govt can't really sue you if you're overseas. So yes - you can default.

Posted: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 9:07 pm
by Aomory
PNGMK: Well I was told that I should have renounced his citizenship when he was 11 or as soon as I got US PR.

The choice I had was send the kid back or sign the bond. Is there any other alternative: NO

I spoke to a lawyer and they said, the Singapore Govt cant really sue me since I am overseas.




quote="Aomory"]
PNGMK wrote:
ecureilx wrote:
PNGMK wrote:Damn - what a mistake. You could have stayed in the US without a valid passport for him until he had US citizenship. Well now you need him to understand the consequences of not doing NS and get him on a plane in less that a week, is that correct?
Mistake ? Threatened ? Well, let me say, from what I know from only 1 case ..

You don't get a choice - either bring the kid back or sign the bond ..

Casually talking with some friends, the reaction was different - one group said, the kid must come here .. than burn his father, and the other, let the kid do what he likes ..

Well, for the second, I remember one of the NS defaulter had to come back to attend to some funeral or something .. not a wise decision, if you ask me, to default let things go to hell..
No there is a third choice. The Singapore govt can't really sue you if you're overseas. So yes - you can default.
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Posted: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 9:31 pm
by sundaymorningstaple
See my 1st reply.