One person spends more in 14 days than in 7 days in SG. But, the longer you stay, the less you spend per time unit. I.e., if you only stay 7 days, you spend X. If you stay 2 weeks, maybe you spend 1.8X. If you stay a whole month, this maybe comes down to 2.5-3X or so, or even less, depending. Seeing as you would be looking for cheaper accommodation if you stay longer, and also not spend too much on "touristy" stuff.
That's an interesting theory, but what does it have to do with the subject of how many days a year a tourist can stay in Singapore on a continual basis, i.e. year after year? If SG only wanted visitors for 7 days, then why dish out millions of passes for 14, 30 & 90 days? The longer a tourist stays, the more money is spent in SG. That's good for Singapore.
SG could limit free on arrival visit stamps via air to 30 days as Thailand does, but instead they give out tons of 90 days passes. If you want to go to the hassles & pay, you might be able to get a 2 month tourist visa to Siam, or triple entries for 6 months, or a one year retirement visa. What does SG have for retirees wishing to live for several months or year round in SG? Nothing much except 30 & 90 day passes.
AngMoG wrote: I agree with other commenters, you seem to be just cherry-picking to justify what you want to do - stay here long-ish term via visa runs while looking for work.
Perhaps you have me confused with the OP. As previously stated i am not here "looking to work", but as a retired expat with the plan to split my years between 6 months in LOS & the other 6 a year elsewhere in Asia. ATM i have a preference for SG.
Visa runs? How do you define that? I have no intention of hoping across any borders & returning to SG again within a few days. The minimum time i'll leave SG for is one month & i think 2 or 3 months generally works best for my long term plans. Depending on if i want to check out & spend some months in new places i've never visited, like KL or HKG, it could be even longer.
My intention is in fairly and objectively researching and analyzing the subject of the allowed frequency & duration of visits by tourists to SG. The "cherry-picking" remark from the poster who originally stated that said it re some quotes i posted. As of now they have not been challenged so give the appearance of being an uncontested slam dunk. But if you can find even just a single quote that would disagree with them, please post it so that you too can be labeled a "cherry picker". I think that's the label people often like to use when they can't counter what has been said. It doesn't add any useful info to a discussion, may just be a cheap shot & like waving the white flag of surrender.
Unless you've studied every case of every visitor to SG, how would you know that 100% of them will be "barred from entry" by their "4th return" visit "at the latest" doing "visa runs"? In fact there are accounts on this forum of people doing visa runs for longer than that.AngMoG wrote: You can do that, please, go ahead - but be warned that on your 3rd or 4th
return at the latest, you will face questions and scrutiny (if not earlier), and at some point, you will be barred from entry.
In one thread (url below) i discovered yesterday, an Italian guy did 90 days in & less than 10 days out repeatedly & with no problems over an 18 month period to August 2010. That's at least 5 visa runs & counting, with no end in sight. There is also the more recent case of the Indonesian, mentioned earlier in this thread, who spent 23-28 days in & 7 days out repeatedly over a 20 month period. That's about 20 visa runs. Then there's the Korean who spent more than 50% of his time in SG over 14 months without any issues & was interested in if he could continue doing this. The responses from forum members were quite favorable to that idea.
You, on the other hand, have not provided one iota of evidence that there has ever been a single case of a first world passport holder being barred from SG by the 3rd or 4th visa run. Do you speak from personal experience, or are you just parroting what someone else said, or making this up to discourage visitors to SG so the infrastructure gets less dust on it?
Why should i be concerned about immigration "questions"? Do you think merely opening a suitcase full of 100 dollar US bills might be the only answer they need? The "scrutiny" session could be over quicker than a premature ejaculator. Or would immigration prefer to see documents (tax returns for the last 6 years, pension papers) proving sufficient income for ever? I surmise that would be the first, and last, time they ever wanted to "scrutinize" such a person. Next time there would be a note on their screen, check this guy through with 90 days, every time he arrives, no questions asked.
Barred from entry? For what? Even the aforementioned Indonesian was likely barred for only 6 months. If he had been able to satisfy immigration's queries or been a US citizen he may have avoided even that. Even an illegally working Korean lady was only barred for a year. Upon returning she immediately recieved 90 days. So in the extremely remote chance i'm ever barred, things don't look too bad. Not bad at all.
Can you cite a single case of a first world passport holder ever being barred from entry when arriving at SG airport, and being deported? If so, what were the circumstances? I would think SG wouldn't want such a case getting in the major news media. It could be bad for business. Very bad. "American citizen visiting SG locked in detention without food, water or toilet. Told she cannot enter country, must return to USA at her own expense. No warning given. No rules stated. No reason either." Ooops. SG just lost millions of dollars in tourist revenue.
What's so tricky about getting off the blacklist?AngMoG wrote: Understand that this is entirely up to the immigration authorities, and once you are blacklisted, it can be tricky to get off that list.
Does SG bar or blacklist law abiding friendly typical 1st world passport visitors who can prove they are not working? If so, please cite a single case where this occurred in the entire history of SG, this forum or any other. If not, then i conclude that, in accord with my SVPs, i have nothing to worry about & can visit whenever & however often i please.
I'm sure immigration is aware there are not many prostitutes from France, Canada & Macau who come to SG to ply their trade.
AngMoG wrote: But of course, if you can find a job within 2-4 months, you should be fine. No one can guarantee that though, and even if you do find a job, a visa is not guaranteed either.
Thanks for the opinions, they may be of assistance to the OP, but no job hunting for me. As a retired profesional gambler, any money i make in SG will be at their casinos.
Led Zeppelin's Robert Plant twice denied entry to SG/couldn't get in in the 70's, can now, even with long hair:
http://www.robertplant.com/press/twice- ... orms-here/