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Postby v4jr4 » Tue, 16 Jul 2013 3:46 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:But as was already stated, both victims were slashed to death, not shot. Additionally, he was in debt, had personal domestic problems, and was facing an internal disciplinary process.

He's already back in Singapore at the Cantonment complex.


I'm still waiting for his motive(s) :cool:
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 16 Jul 2013 4:36 pm

I'm waiting for the movie.....

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Postby AndrewV » Tue, 16 Jul 2013 5:42 pm

PNGMK wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:But as was already stated, both victims were slashed to death, not shot. Additionally, he was in debt, had personal domestic problems, and was facing an internal disciplinary process.

He's already back in Singapore at the Cantonment complex.


I suspect it involved initial corruption (over the supposed theft of goods from a Cisco safe box), mixed in with a standover tactic by a bankrupt cop that the victims probably refused and then some undoubtedly racist remarks (on both sides) followed by violence.

Personally, if Malay man goes nuts... I get the hell out of dodge.

Never forget where the phrase "run amok" comes from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_amok

"Running amok, sometimes referred to as simply amok,[1] also spelled amuk, from the Malay,[2] is "an episode of sudden mass assault against people or objects usually by a single individual following a period of brooding that has traditionally been regarded as occurring especially in Malaysian culture"

(10:1 the son tried to stand in the way of the cop driving off in his car... only in Singapore would a person sacrifice their life for a car).


there is no need to generalize like this, the singaporean malays that I know (and i know a lot from my volunteering work) , are amongst the nicest lot I have met

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 16 Jul 2013 8:04 pm

If you bothered to read the post closely, he was talking about the fact that the word amok comes from the Malays. If you think he is kidding, think beheadings that often take place in Malaysia. A Malay with a kris or parang * tanked up on arak is not to be trifled with.

With regard to this particular incident, remember the cop was unarmed (gun wise) therefore, probably due to the overwhelming problems he had, decided he could also handle two men (one old & middle aged even thought the elder would have been in good strong condition considering he was an offshore angler to boot. I'd say there was a good chance that he ran amok as well.

I also reckon that somehow he saw the victim (elder) leave the bank with a safe deposit / strong box and seized on the opportunity as he already knew where the old man lived, having been there last year on a call. Opportunity and motive coupled with depression over personal debt problems and being under investigation already by the SPF.

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Postby the lynx » Wed, 17 Jul 2013 8:29 am

It is alright, AndrewV, like what SMS said, PNGMK didn't mean it in malicious way, he was just pointing out there is an entry in DSM dedicated for 'amuk' which is unique among the Malays around SE Asia.

Of course, having said that, amuk is not a frequent occurrence. Usually when a guy 'mengamuk', it is often due to preceding provocation on him.



'Berserk' comes to mind. Video games...

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Postby ecureilx » Wed, 17 Jul 2013 9:32 am

the lynx wrote:It is alright, AndrewV, like what SMS said, PNGMK didn't mean it in malicious way, he was just pointing out there is an entry in DSM dedicated for 'amuk' which is unique among the Malays around SE Asia.

Of course, having said that, amuk is not a frequent occurrence. Usually when a guy 'mengamuk', it is often due to preceding provocation on him.



'Berserk' comes to mind. Video games...


then again, if I can get a grip on PNGMK's past writings, he may have a deep affinity to Malays ;) ;)

not stirring the pot though :D

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Postby nutnut » Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:28 am

AndrewV wrote:
PNGMK wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:But as was already stated, both victims were slashed to death, not shot. Additionally, he was in debt, had personal domestic problems, and was facing an internal disciplinary process.

He's already back in Singapore at the Cantonment complex.


I suspect it involved initial corruption (over the supposed theft of goods from a Cisco safe box), mixed in with a standover tactic by a bankrupt cop that the victims probably refused and then some undoubtedly racist remarks (on both sides) followed by violence.

Personally, if Malay man goes nuts... I get the hell out of dodge.

Never forget where the phrase "run amok" comes from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_amok

"Running amok, sometimes referred to as simply amok,[1] also spelled amuk, from the Malay,[2] is "an episode of sudden mass assault against people or objects usually by a single individual following a period of brooding that has traditionally been regarded as occurring especially in Malaysian culture"

(10:1 the son tried to stand in the way of the cop driving off in his car... only in Singapore would a person sacrifice their life for a car).


there is no need to generalize like this, the singaporean malays that I know (and i know a lot from my volunteering work) , are amongst the nicest lot I have met


Try not to take anything seriosuly in this forum, it certainly helps me deal with things, also what Lynx and SMS said.
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Postby morenangpinay » Mon, 22 Jul 2013 2:43 pm

wow yahoo headlined the update of 3 lawyers representing the accused as a twist in the case... :lol:

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Postby Chantikki » Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:06 pm

morenangpinay wrote:wow yahoo headlined the update of 3 lawyers representing the accused as a twist in the case... :lol:


Yes, I love Yahoo news. the twist for me was that the police only just let him talk to a lawyer. The Singapore police have not let them speak to him up until now.

I'm just surprised that you can't speak with a lawyer here if you are arrested.

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Postby PNGMK » Tue, 23 Jul 2013 1:37 am

Chantikki wrote:
morenangpinay wrote:wow yahoo headlined the update of 3 lawyers representing the accused as a twist in the case... :lol:


Yes, I love Yahoo news. the twist for me was that the police only just let him talk to a lawyer. The Singapore police have not let them speak to him up until now.

I'm just surprised that you can't speak with a lawyer here if you are arrested.


Ah no - that's pretty common here actually. There is also no right to silence.


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