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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 04 Jul 2013 1:33 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:I only get those questions with the under 40 generations. ....


A while ago, I opened the door in our building for a lady .. and she gave me 'the look' and when in the lift asked me if I am local .. I was tempted to ask if that was because of me being courteous ;) ;) I decided to keep quite and act blur ..

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Postby x9200 » Thu, 04 Jul 2013 4:51 pm

Wd40 wrote:
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Wd40 wrote:
nakatago wrote:
katbh wrote:+1.
Yes, how do you forget your past or history. I believe people of Indian descent have a great system where you can keep ties to India by your race.


On the other extreme, there are people who don't or don't even try to integrate into their "adoptive" countries.

[..]
My wife though worked for a local IT company and interacted with lots of locals and has picked up quite a bit of Singlish and she speaks it subconciously quite often :)

So if you are not kiasualized enough or still show some common courtesy, does it mean you are not well integrated?


Yeah! Integration basically means being one among them, walk like them, talk like them. Its almost impossible for the 1st gen migrants to become like that unless you do atleast some part of schooling with the locals.

You need to live here through the events, watch the local TV shows etc to even understand some of their jokes.

Wait a minute, this very government has been running the courtesy campaign for like 30 years and I don't think there are that many kiasualized people over there. Oh no, are you implying........ :shock:

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Postby abc123xyz » Thu, 11 Jul 2013 9:51 am

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bgd wrote:I don't understand why Singapore allows difference status within a family group. If Dad wants to be a PR then it's the whole family or nothing.

Someone care to explain why we have the current state were parents can be PR but the child not.


Why the whole family cannot get PR at one go ? Well, well, say I am Working here for 5 years, and got married recently, and ICA unofficially says 'wait for 3 years and apply'

And in the meantime, wife gets a job, and ICa changes the tune, as the wife can be eligible on her own for PR, then again she hasn't got 3 years income tax statement or even less, so chance of success are low, and super low.

There is no one-size fit all says me ..

I recently bumped into some Indian guys, who are SC and spouse on PR, and the kids are in International School, simply because they are terrified of the Education system here once they go to P5, since there is streaming, express stream, and all complications and do genuinely worry their kids may end up in Poly et al .. No, I am going to their defense, and I don't have kids, so I couldn't relate much to it ..

And being in an Indian International School means, they can get into Indian Unis, when they complete the Indian A Level ... I am made to believe that is very stressful with the future with the local system and streaming .. where pretty much the kid's future is sealed at P5 ..




Sorry if that didn't jive with the mood here :) :) :) :)


A bit off topic, may I ask what is the unofficial message of 'wait for 3 years and apply'?

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Postby zzm9980 » Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:21 am

abc123xyz wrote:
ecureilx wrote:
bgd wrote:I don't understand why Singapore allows difference status within a family group. If Dad wants to be a PR then it's the whole family or nothing.

Someone care to explain why we have the current state were parents can be PR but the child not.


Why the whole family cannot get PR at one go ? Well, well, say I am Working here for 5 years, and got married recently, and ICA unofficially says 'wait for 3 years and apply'

And in the meantime, wife gets a job, and ICa changes the tune, as the wife can be eligible on her own for PR, then again she hasn't got 3 years income tax statement or even less, so chance of success are low, and super low.

There is no one-size fit all says me ..

I recently bumped into some Indian guys, who are SC and spouse on PR, and the kids are in International School, simply because they are terrified of the Education system here once they go to P5, since there is streaming, express stream, and all complications and do genuinely worry their kids may end up in Poly et al .. No, I am going to their defense, and I don't have kids, so I couldn't relate much to it ..

And being in an Indian International School means, they can get into Indian Unis, when they complete the Indian A Level ... I am made to believe that is very stressful with the future with the local system and streaming .. where pretty much the kid's future is sealed at P5 ..




Sorry if that didn't jive with the mood here :) :) :) :)


A bit off topic, may I ask what is the unofficial message of 'wait for 3 years and apply'?


Your rejection letter from ICA will generally have one of three messages:

1) Your application was rejected.

2) Your application was rejected. You are welcome to apply again after XX months/years

3) Your application was rejected. You are welcome to remain in Singapore and work on a valid work pass.

The first one is vague and can mean anything.

The second essentially means if you have no substantial negative change to your particulars and apply again after the time period specified, you're likely to receive approval.

The third essentially means that you will not be approved with your current particulars, so don't bother trying to reapply. If you have a substantial change of situation (doubled salary and a few male sons for example), you may have a chance in the future.

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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:23 am

abc123xyz wrote:A bit off topic, may I ask what is the unofficial message of 'wait for 3 years and apply'?


ICA has never put it in black and white, but, going by their various requirements, like for LTVP +, for example, there is a need to have been married for 3 years atleast.

And from past experience of friends, those who applied for LTVP/PR etc for spouse, after 3 years of marriage stood better chances, though there are a lot of unkowns in this assumption too

Same includes Singaporean Friends, who have foreign spouses .. they struggled to get LTVP for their spouses, even when the kids were born, but once they reached the magical 3 year of marriage, suddenly LTVP / PR all was free-flowing . sort of ..

Again, above are ASSUMPTIONS .. so don't take it as the Holy Gospel ..

What works for others may not work for you, or otherwise ..

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Postby abc123xyz » Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:45 am

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abc123xyz wrote:A bit off topic, may I ask what is the unofficial message of 'wait for 3 years and apply'?


ICA has never put it in black and white, but, going by their various requirements, like for LTVP +, for example, there is a need to have been married for 3 years atleast.

And from past experience of friends, those who applied for LTVP/PR etc for spouse, after 3 years of marriage stood better chances, though there are a lot of unkowns in this assumption too

Same includes Singaporean Friends, who have foreign spouses .. they struggled to get LTVP for their spouses, even when the kids were born, but once they reached the magical 3 year of marriage, suddenly LTVP / PR all was free-flowing . sort of ..

Again, above are ASSUMPTIONS .. so don't take it as the Holy Gospel ..

What works for others may not work for you, or otherwise ..


You answered my question, thank you :)

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Postby abc123xyz » Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:46 am

ecureilx wrote:
abc123xyz wrote:A bit off topic, may I ask what is the unofficial message of 'wait for 3 years and apply'?


ICA has never put it in black and white, but, going by their various requirements, like for LTVP +, for example, there is a need to have been married for 3 years atleast.

And from past experience of friends, those who applied for LTVP/PR etc for spouse, after 3 years of marriage stood better chances, though there are a lot of unkowns in this assumption too

Same includes Singaporean Friends, who have foreign spouses .. they struggled to get LTVP for their spouses, even when the kids were born, but once they reached the magical 3 year of marriage, suddenly LTVP / PR all was free-flowing . sort of ..

Again, above are ASSUMPTIONS .. so don't take it as the Holy Gospel ..

What works for others may not work for you, or otherwise ..


Wait, correct me if I'm wrong. I got the third one and I'm married to a local, does it mean they are telling me to get the hell out of here?

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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 11 Jul 2013 1:49 pm

abc123xyz wrote:Wait, correct me if I'm wrong. I got the third one and I'm married to a local, does it mean they are telling me to get the hell out of here?


Well, If I have to tell you, I may have to kill you ;) ;)

Just kidding .. no, nobody knows for sure .. though others may chime in ..

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Postby abc123xyz » Thu, 11 Jul 2013 3:55 pm

ecureilx wrote:
abc123xyz wrote:Wait, correct me if I'm wrong. I got the third one and I'm married to a local, does it mean they are telling me to get the hell out of here?


Well, If I have to tell you, I may have to kill you ;) ;)

Just kidding .. no, nobody knows for sure .. though others may chime in ..


I hope I'll have my success story to share one day :)

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 11 Jul 2013 4:00 pm

With patience, you might. But again, you might not. That's the problem. We don't know what the gahmen will do in order to save their own skins in the next GE or even the following that.

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Postby abc123xyz » Thu, 11 Jul 2013 4:53 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:With patience, you might. But again, you might not. That's the problem. We don't know what the gahmen will do in order to save their own skins in the next GE or even the following that.


Wah lao eh the more I think of it the more sadder I got

Almost kena vomit blood liao


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