While I understand why they do not allow it here, I really think it is a double edge sword for a country that tries to get some new, valuable citizens in. You spent half of your life in one place, have your family, roots over there, feel loyal to that country and then you move to a new place, spent few more years, feel more like home now and than what, all the past disappears? It's kind of like you stay with your parents and then get married and move out on your own. With the husband or wife you should be loyal to now it does not stop you to be still loyal to your parents. Am I that old fashioned?Hannieroo wrote:I don't think a government should interfere with a parent's educational choices providing the child is receiving one.
But other than that I think you should be in or out. You want to be Singaporean, American, British or whatever or you don't. No mix and match cut to fit. No dual nationality.
On the other extreme, there are people who don't or don't even try to integrate into their "adoptive" countries.katbh wrote:+1.
Yes, how do you forget your past or history. I believe people of Indian descent have a great system where you can keep ties to India by your race.
The title of the article, if you bothered to open it up, was:Hidy Ho wrote:"Subcontinental PR Abuse....... Mad"
Really??? What abuse, except for starting a thread that point negatively at one group of people???
As a matter of fact, due to medical reasons, (read: handicapped) Australia recently had a case of the the parents of a child allowed to be resident but not the child ..katbh wrote:Why should whole families be forced into PR when only one may want it? The UK govt, the Australian govt, indeed most governments, do not insist that all members become PR or Citizens when only one applies.
And of late, since back in my country the situation improved, many a Australian new citizens / residents have been quietly getting back to their own country and doing business / consulting etc. I wonder how australia could device a way to kick out new citizens, if there was even an option like that !!!Hannieroo wrote:... Is that the difference between SG and other places then? People come here then decide they like it but because they arrived through work or whatever don't feel they are Singaporean? But people sign up before emigrating to Australia so go in feeling they want the whole ...
^This.Hannieroo wrote: But I do think it's off to want to benefit as a citizen and all that entails but not sign up fully in order to dodge NS. That is cheating a little. Hey, yes I'll improve my chances of work, be able to buy property and guarantee my children an SG education if they want one but I'm not going to help defend the country. Take the package or not.
Another +1 to this. If dual citizenship were offered, I believe I'd attempt that path but I have no interest in ever giving up my citizenship in my home country. I'm not here because I don't want to be there. And God forbid, if something happened to any of my family back there, I want to be able to return and make things right for them as much as I am able.x9200 wrote:While I understand why they do not allow it here, I really think it is a double edge sword for a country that tries to get some new, valuable citizens in. You spent half of your life in one place, have your family, roots over there, feel loyal to that country and then you move to a new place, spent few more years, feel more like home now and than what, all the past disappears? It's kind of like you stay with your parents and then get married and move out on your own. With the husband or wife you should be loyal to now it does not stop you to be still loyal to your parents. Am I that old fashioned?Hannieroo wrote:I don't think a government should interfere with a parent's educational choices providing the child is receiving one.
But other than that I think you should be in or out. You want to be Singaporean, American, British or whatever or you don't. No mix and match cut to fit. No dual nationality.
+1 to this .. and .. well, there are others too, who are more affluent, and for temporary convenience, take up PR/SC .. and then ditch it when their objectives have changed .. Like a new SC guy I know who later married a German Girl and when she decided to move back, the husband followed .. and like that ..x9200 wrote:Well, my son is PR since he was 5 months old and he will serve NS if necessary (not that I am particularly happy about this). Also, having Singapore and my current citizenship will not make me any less loyal to Singapore but giving up the first will make me feel like a betrayal. What Singapore should hope ultimately for is to get loyal citizens by the true virtue of this word and not just some semi random people who find this place a better opportunity for them and will chose to stay here because they have no other choice. Current approach favors the later ones.
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