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Citizenship application

Postby SGP » Sun, 30 Jun 2013 12:18 pm

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I am planning to apply for citizenship for myself and my family. My family includes our daughter, who has been attending an International School for a year or so. Since she is well settled in her school, I don't want to disturb her.

I understand that naturalized citizens have to register themselves with local schools and can't continue with International School, but an exception can requested from MOE. Normally, what are the criteria for such approval from MOE?

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Postby x9200 » Sun, 30 Jun 2013 2:30 pm

From what I could gather via this funny thing called google, one example given on MOE web page is SC returning from a foreign country where their children followed the overseas school curriculum. In light of this your daughter, if long enough in the International School, may have some chances to get the approval granted but I guess you should clarify it directly with MOE.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 30 Jun 2013 3:19 pm

I have to assume you are a PR here? Is you daughter a PR? Was she born in Singapore? All these will play a part in whether or not you might be successful. If you put your child into the International School when she first started school (which seem you only did a two years ago, then, if I were ICA, I would have to ask myself, did they originally take up PR just to scam the system? Because, to me, if a PR, It would have made more sense to put her in the local system. Unless, you had no real plans to stay here. I'm not saying that is what is going to happen, but if it crossed my mind, I'm sure it will cross ICA's mind as they are in the business of making those kinds of decisions.

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Postby guyg » Sun, 30 Jun 2013 9:03 pm

Singapore have you asked the school?

My son is SC (dual nationality) and we have him registered for an International School, the school advised us it is unlikely to be a problem with MOE, my guess would be your school would be able to offer you the best advise.

SMS, with regard to your point on why a PR should only be interested in local schools I understand you are expressing your view as to what ICA may think but you seem to be sympathetic to their position. Personally I don't think intending to remain flexible with regard to living in two countries/cultures (if that is the objective) is in any way showing a lack of commitment to Singapore. Many families for different reasons feel tied to multiple cultures and countries and successful cities thrive on the flow in out and back again of people, culture and ideas. An identify can be built on change not just on stasis. Being an "expat forum" I'm surprised how often the general opinions expressed here seem to tally with this perceived stance the ICA will take. Who knows perhaps the ICA are more aware of the benefits of cultural diversity than you think. History suggests they are.

I am applying for PR, am I "scamming the system", as you suggest? The simple answer is no, but seems you would say otherwise.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 30 Jun 2013 9:24 pm

No, I just don't blow smoke. I try to tell it like a see it. A lot of posters make their posts looking for a preconceived answer as they want it to be. I try to see it from a lot of anecdotal evidence and one who has already walked a lot of those miles years ago. I also try to understand the current position of the government (which changes periodically - since May 2011, a lot more periodically).

I also have first had knowledge of a case where one party was a Singapore citizen working in the UK (in the financial district) and married to an eastern European. When they returned to Singapore, they got dual citizenship for the girl and kept the boy on a UK passport and in the International Schools on student passes so as to keep him out NS. I tried to tell my boss that ICA were going to burn him later but he wouldn't listen, so, the boy graduated from the International School, went to university in the UK, got his degree and not cannot get back to Singapore except on a SVP. He'll not even be able to get an EP here as the government is wise as to what was done and are rather vindictive that way. Oh, one other thing. The father is also a card carrying PAP member as well so you can discount the things I say at your own peril. As I said, these are things that "could" happen. I did not say they would.

You will find most on this board tend to give you the truth as we see it, and not some pipe dream. At the end of the day, the choice is entirely yours. As I said before, good luck. It wasn't meant sarcastic the first time and isn't meant that way this time either.

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Postby guyg » Sun, 30 Jun 2013 9:44 pm

NS has nothing to do direcly or indirectly with my point (it is not something that worries me) nor does the other case you described. I'm just saying that applying for PR/SC whilst actively considering that your family may or may not again live outside Singapore for a number of years (whilst fulfilling all NS commitments that may exist) is not scamming the system.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:01 pm

Nobody said your were, not even I. Maybe you want to go back and read what I originally wrote, but this time see what I actually said. :-|


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