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Post by zzm9980 » Thu, 27 Jun 2013 8:57 am

[quote="Strong Eagle"][quote="zzm9980"]http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013 ... ecame-one/

[quote]In 2009, Ed Snowden said leakers “should be shot.â€Â

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Re: Edward Snowden - Great American Patriot or Gutless Trait

Post by Chantikki » Thu, 27 Jun 2013 1:10 pm

PNGMK wrote:Apart from his hilarious game of "where's Snowden" it seems the US populace is very much against him....I'm not thrilled that he now seems to be in bed with that great Aussie self grandiser Assange but Snowden seems to have done the public a service.
The most popular comments on cnn and other online news are all for him.
Most people seem to think the US govt is getting way out of control.

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Post by JR8 » Thu, 27 Jun 2013 1:12 pm

Chantikki wrote: The most popular comments on cnn and other online news are all for him.
Most people seem to think the US govt is getting way out of control.

And what are their opinions about enemy governments?

Or don't they say?

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Post by Chantikki » Thu, 27 Jun 2013 1:21 pm

JR8 wrote:
Chantikki wrote: The most popular comments on cnn and other online news are all for him.
Most people seem to think the US govt is getting way out of control.

And what are their opinions about enemy governments?

Or don't they say?
they just seemed to stick to the topic in the comments i saw.

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Post by JR8 » Thu, 27 Jun 2013 1:32 pm

zzm9980 wrote: I'm not sure what passes for Icelandic native cuisine, but I know South American food is really damn good.
Cod, and boiled potatoes, with butter.

And cod, and boiled potatoes, with white sauce on it.

And cod, boiled potatoes, white sauce, with chopped parsley over.

At $100 a plate.

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Post by zzm9980 » Thu, 27 Jun 2013 1:40 pm

JR8 wrote:
zzm9980 wrote: I'm not sure what passes for Icelandic native cuisine, but I know South American food is really damn good.
Cod, and boiled potatoes, with butter.

And cod, and boiled potatoes, with white sauce on it.

And cod, boiled potatoes, white sauce, with chopped parsley over.

At $100 a plate.

If the cod was battered, and potatoes fried, you might have me sold.

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Post by JR8 » Thu, 27 Jun 2013 1:55 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
JR8 wrote:
zzm9980 wrote: I'm not sure what passes for Icelandic native cuisine, but I know South American food is really damn good.
Cod, and boiled potatoes, with butter.

And cod, and boiled potatoes, with white sauce on it.

And cod, boiled potatoes, white sauce, with chopped parsley over.

At $100 a plate.

If the cod was battered, and potatoes fried, you might have me sold.

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YES! Decent fish and chips, I'd move tomorrow.

But amazingly enough, you get that in Britain and not in 'Codland' (Iceland/Norway etc)

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Post by PNGMK » Sat, 29 Jun 2013 2:39 pm

Well as I thought it seems Assange has made a mess of it all due to his ego.

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Post by zzm9980 » Sat, 29 Jun 2013 4:12 pm

PNGMK wrote:Well as I thought it seems Assange has made a mess of it all due to his ego.
Yes, I find it interesting that Ecuador is saying the paper work given to Snowden isn't valid, and was issued without approval from the London embassy. Oh wait, who else is staying there?

The choice of Ecuador vs Iceland should be changed as follows:

Where would you rather remained holed up for months or years in diplomatic limbo:

1) A spare office of a small consulate for a banana republic in London
or
2) The 'transit zone' in the Moscow airport, no doubt bult during Soviet rule and with all of the 'charms' and 'creature comforts' facilities of that era are known for.

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Post by Chantikki » Sun, 30 Jun 2013 6:07 pm

I'm wondering if Ecuador might be waiting to see if the US renew their trade agreement first? or are they pretty sure they won't?

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Post by PNGMK » Sun, 30 Jun 2013 8:03 pm

Chantikki wrote:I'm wondering if Ecuador might be waiting to see if the US renew their trade agreement first? or are they pretty sure they won't?
Perhaps Ortigo is much more interested in seeing what they can get from the Russians. The balance of power is subtly shifting.

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Post by iamsen » Sun, 30 Jun 2013 10:46 pm

Back when in my early teens, I had a school project to do with some classmates. We met up at the library to borrow some books. My classmates conveniently 'forgot' to bring their library card. They kept the books.

Almost a decade away from Singapore, I returned for a short 1 week visit, within 2 days, the library association or whatever it is called sent me a letter demanding overdue book fees.

My father who I was living with before leaving had already sold the flat and I was technially 'homeless' to the authorities. But they found me.

The god king and his minions are forever watching. I assume the same of other governments.

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Post by Mi Amigo » Wed, 28 Aug 2013 1:34 am

Regardless of this guy's political views, I think he makes some valid points:

Letter to President Obama on Surveillance and Freedom
Be careful what you wish for

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Post by rainetsl » Sun, 01 Sep 2013 9:47 pm

lol risking your life and being called a gutless traitor?

hes a patriot for looking out for the interests of his country. i have a lot of respect for what he has done.

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Post by PNGMK » Sun, 01 Sep 2013 10:47 pm

Mi Amigo wrote:Regardless of this guy's political views, I think he makes some valid points:

Letter to President Obama on Surveillance and Freedom

He's misunderstood why Pres. Obama became a constitutional expert. It's for the same reason I became an Australia taxation expert... to get around the law as expediently as possible.

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