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Post by montagne66 » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 5:41 pm

Hi,

I am going to live in Singapore with my fiancée from this summer. She will work with an EP visa. I

will come with her to find an EP too but I think of doing a LTVP visa which allows me to stay one

year in Singapore to find a work (if I understood well).

I have a few questions about the LTVP visa :

- Can we start a LTVP visa when I am already in Singapore, with a tourist visa for example ?
- May I start the process to have a LTVP visa from the process of EP visa for my fiancée ?

Thank you :)

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 6:23 pm

montagne66 wrote:Hi,

I am going to live in Singapore with my fiancée from this summer. She will work with an EP visa. I

will come with her to find an EP too but I think of doing a LTVP visa which allows me to stay one

year in Singapore to find a work (if I understood well).

I have a few questions about the LTVP visa :

- Can we start a LTVP visa when I am already in Singapore, with a tourist visa for example ?
- May I start the process to have a LTVP visa from the process of EP visa for my fiancée ?

Thank you :)
Sorry to say, but an LTVP visa is not applicable for you as you are not married. There is no visa for a fiancée. There is the ability to get an LTVP if you can prove common law status, however, that will entail making a statutory document at the embassy to swear to the facte that the common law marriage has existed before your arrival in Singapore. Even then, if her employer will not sponsor her, you will be out of luck.

I am assuming she is going to be on a P1 EP making in excess of $8K/mo. If she is on any other EP I don't think the MOM will give you an LTVP at all.
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Post by JR8 » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 6:52 pm

There used to me a thing called an Employment Pass Eligibility Certificate (EPEC), that if you were qualified for one, entitled you for an up-to-12-month LTVP on arrival (and it was renewable). But it got abused, and hence scrapped after a few short years. If you're reading old advice on the web, it might still seem this is an possible 'live' avenue. but it no longer is.

From what I see you know have to come on a work-pass...
(Mom.gov.sg)

Or be qualified as some relative or spouse of a dependent...
http://www.ica.gov.sg/services_centre.a ... 2&secid=20

Or an SVP like other visitors and not expect tenure, or to stick around too long.

The LTVP could be argued to have been an abused, 'long-term girlfriend/boyfriend visa', but that's no longer an option...

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Post by IronMac » Mon, 24 Jun 2013 5:52 am

Odd...I had an EPEC but it was not renewable.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 24 Jun 2013 6:45 am

IronMac wrote:Odd...I had an EPEC but it was not renewable.
Correct. They were never renewable and the were good for "UP TO" one year. Towards the end of the program, we were seening only 3 & 6 months LTVPs.
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Post by JR8 » Mon, 24 Jun 2013 9:50 am

IronMac wrote:Odd...I had an EPEC but it was not renewable.
Ah, that's right, apologies. I qualified for the extension via marriage.

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Post by IronMac » Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:30 am

JR8 wrote:
IronMac wrote:Odd...I had an EPEC but it was not renewable.
Ah, that's right, apologies. I qualified for the extension via marriage.
What?! They never had that option for me, either!

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:48 am

I doubt if it was an extension as much as it was a new application for an LTVP as the spouse of a Singaporean. JR8 was probably just using economy of words.
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Post by JR8 » Mon, 24 Jun 2013 5:00 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:I doubt if it was an extension as much as it was a new application for an LTVP as the spouse of a Singaporean. JR8 was probably just using economy of words.
Well it was an 'extension' in that my immigration status didn't change, and my FIN number stayed the same. But yes I had to lodge a 'new' application based upon a changed set of circumstances (marrying a local). It was seamless to me though; as I stayed on an LTVP, and my local legal status-wise carried on as it previously had.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 24 Jun 2013 5:19 pm

Your FIN number will never change unless you get PR and get a NRIC. When you get your LTVP this time you will also still have the same FIN.
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Post by JR8 » Mon, 24 Jun 2013 5:49 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Your FIN number will never change unless you get PR and get a NRIC. When you get your LTVP this time you will also still have the same FIN.
True my FIN# has not changed since my first time in SG, almost 20 years ago now.

It's quite strange to randomly move back here, but always be the 'same person/ID' in the eyes of the gubment, to who I was back then when I first washed up on these shores!

(maybe that's normal in countries where people have ID cards... dunno)

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