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Postby LupeSafarii » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 6:20 am

Hi everybody. First time over here so wasn't really sure where to post this :p
I'm 17 living in Canada and I have NS coming up which I'm looking forward to, but I'm also aware that Singapore has VERY harsh laws on "drugs". I use weed (Marijuana) on a daily basis. I have my examination for NS soon, and I was wondering what will the examiners do when they find weed in me? What are the consequences?

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Postby katbh » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 8:25 am

I am assuming this is a joke. You WILL be drug tested at your exam. As a NS ready young man you can also be drug tested at the airport on your way in. I am not sure how long back the drug testing will pick up grass in your system, but I suspect you should give your body time to clear it.
Consequences are pretty harsh - do not go there. And anyway, you will need to give it up for NS. So start now.
DO NOT THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF NS by them finding that you have smoked. All that will happen is that they will make NS harder or longer for you or force you into Govt rehab for months before NS.
Do not think you can get out of NS so easily, and do not think it is just a matter of your parents loosing their bond monies.
If you ever want to come back to Singapore, you need to do this - shit as it may seem

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Postby x9200 » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 8:48 am

THC can be detected in your organism up to 100 days depending on the frequency of taking it, the doses and the tests themselves so better stop using it now.

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Re: NS question

Postby JR8 » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:30 am

LupeSafarii wrote:Hi everybody. First time over here so wasn't really sure where to post this :p
I'm 17 living in Canada and I have NS coming up which I'm looking forward to, but I'm also aware that Singapore has VERY harsh laws on "drugs". I use weed (Marijuana) on a daily basis. I have my examination for NS soon, and I was wondering what will the examiners do when they find weed in me? What are the consequences?


You'll most likely be jailed for possession (that includes having THC in your blood), and then be made to do your NS afterwards, during which I expect they'll go the extra special lengths to help you lose the dopester-lifestyle. After which they will probably deport you.

Triple result - don't do it!

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Postby LupeSafarii » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 7:31 pm

You'll most likely be jailed for possession (that includes having THC in your blood), and then be made to do your NS afterwards, during which I expect they'll go the extra special lengths to help you lose the dopester-lifestyle. After which they will probably deport you.

Triple result - don't do it![/quote]

Lol wut? Please tell me that's a joke? How can they charge someone for possession just cuz he has THC in his blood? I know Singapore is harsh, but I expected the country to be fair.

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Postby katbh » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 7:38 pm

No joke about blood test. But not sure about punishment. It will be taken VERY seriously. Singapore is fair about it. The same rules are applied to all - that is fair. You should not be treated any differently to a kid who goes on holidays to Thailand and has a toke. Are you better then them?

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Postby LupeSafarii » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 7:43 pm

katbh wrote:No joke about blood test. But not sure about punishment. It will be taken VERY seriously. Singapore is fair about it. The same rules are applied to all - that is fair. You should not be treated any differently to a kid who goes on holidays to Thailand and has a toke. Are you better then them?


So just to clarify, I can get punished in Singapore for doing something LEGAL in another country? And is it just a blood and urine test I can expect to take? Or will I also have to take a hair test?

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Postby zzm9980 » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 8:14 pm

LupeSafarii wrote:
katbh wrote:No joke about blood test. But not sure about punishment. It will be taken VERY seriously. Singapore is fair about it. The same rules are applied to all - that is fair. You should not be treated any differently to a kid who goes on holidays to Thailand and has a toke. Are you better then them?


So just to clarify, I can get punished in Singapore for doing something LEGAL in another country? And is it just a blood and urine test I can expect to take? Or will I also have to take a hair test?


Yes you can. I wish it was a joke, and to anyone raised in the west, it seems like it must be. But it's not. Many Embassy websites even warn their citizens about this, that drugs in your system are considered the same as possession.

http://www.travel.state.gov/travel/cis_ ... _penalties

Mandatory Death Penalty for Many Narcotics Offenses: Singapore police have the authority to compel both residents and non-residents to submit to random drug analysis. They do not distinguish between drugs consumed before or after entering Singapore in applying local laws. In Singapore, detained U.S. citizens have been surprised that they had been arrested for violations that would not have resulted in arrest in the United States.


Bold by me.

There are stories of people crossing the border being made to walk past very large fans blowing towards drug sniffing dogs. I would strongly suggest you stop all drug use now. If you have a favorite set of clothes you wore often while smoking, a bag you carried it in, anything, destroy it in Canada (most of you clothes will not be suitable for Singaporean climate anyway). Go to Youtube and figure out whatever random concoctions will help purge your system. Most probably don't work, but it's better than nothing. Cut your hair. As short as possible. Shaved bald is best.

Btw, I'm pretty sure you won't get the death penalty unless you're smuggling in with intent to distribute.

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Postby x9200 » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 8:19 pm

LupeSafarii wrote:
katbh wrote:No joke about blood test. But not sure about punishment. It will be taken VERY seriously. Singapore is fair about it. The same rules are applied to all - that is fair. You should not be treated any differently to a kid who goes on holidays to Thailand and has a toke. Are you better then them?


So just to clarify, I can get punished in Singapore for doing something LEGAL in another country? And is it just a blood and urine test I can expect to take? Or will I also have to take a hair test?

Well, yes, but this on a side note. You will have THC in your blood right here in Singapore so technically... see the point?

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Postby LupeSafarii » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 9:02 pm

Thx for the link zzm ^^ Jeez I can't believe some of the things I'm reading ..
In Singapore, you can be arrested for jaywalking, littering, or spitting.
Singapore police have the authority to compel both residents and non-residents to submit to random drug analysis.

Lmao. Jaywalking and littering can land you in jail? I mean this in no disrespect but is Singapore a democracy with respect to human rights or is it a police state disguised as a democracy lol

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Postby katbh » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 9:07 pm

But I believe it is still illegal in Canada. It may be common but it is still illegal. Even the legal status of medicinal use is equivocal. So although it may be common for you to smoke, it is not legal to possess and I assume not to consume. So you are breaking Canadian Law (even if Federal Laws have been enacted), and Singaporean Laws.
So yes, being bought up in the West we call know that it is common and a 'rite of passage' but ....that does not make it legal.
Just watch your step, that is the advice given here. You have to do national service (I assume you did not renounce your citizenship), do not make it harder for yourself.

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Postby LupeSafarii » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 9:30 pm

katbh wrote:But I believe it is still illegal in Canada. It may be common but it is still illegal. Even the legal status of medicinal use is equivocal. So although it may be common for you to smoke, it is not legal to possess and I assume not to consume. So you are breaking Canadian Law (even if Federal Laws have been enacted), and Singaporean Laws.
So yes, being bought up in the West we call know that it is common and a 'rite of passage' but ....that does not make it legal.
Just watch your step, that is the advice given here. You have to do national service (I assume you did not renounce your citizenship), do not make it harder for yourself.


On 12 April 2011, Justice Donald Taliano found that Canada's Marijuana Medical Access Regulations (MMAR) and "the prohibitions against the possession and production of cannabis (marijuana) contained in sections 4 and 7 respectively of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act" are "constitutionally invalid and of no force and effect".[18] The government was given 90 days (until 11 July) to fill the void in those sections, or the possession and cultivation of Marijuana would become legal in all of Ontario. This includes the non-medical use of the drug.

For the police to take legal action against you for weed, you must have more than 5 grams with the intent to distribute (atleast in Toronto). Anything less than that and the police will probably ask for a toke ;)

But yes I understand how serious this is in Singapore and I'll be detoxing my body for the next couple of weeks. The laws of Singapore baffles me, but it's not for me to judge. On a side note, are people in Singapore happy with the laws? Has nobody questioned them?

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Postby JR8 » Sun, 23 Jun 2013 9:52 pm

LupeSafarii wrote:
katbh wrote:But I believe it is still illegal in Canada.



It's a death penalty in Singapore.


You inviting trouble by imagining you're somehow 'above it'.... you're not, they will hang you.

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Postby Hannieroo » Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:33 am

Dude, whether people question or not, you just need to keep your head down and your mouth shut. It's not the place to be a 17 year old in the way you know. This is not Europe or N America.

Shave your head, drink plenty of water and Vit C and Milk thistle capsules will help, they clean your blood.

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 24 Jun 2013 8:48 am

LupeSafarii wrote: In Singapore, you can be arrested for jaywalking, littering, or spitting.

Those are rarely enforced more than a small (relatively) fine. It is not uncommon to see signs that say "No Skateboarding! $5000 fine". I'm rather sure no one has ever been fined that much for skateboarding.

is it a police state disguised as a democracy lol


You should really learn more about Singapore before coming back for NS. You may not have a (legal) choice at this point though.


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