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Update to PR application

Post by thisisashish » Thu, 20 Jun 2013 7:15 pm

Hi

I applied for PR in April 2013. With below details. Now, I have got a salary jump of 20% after PR application (I remain in same company.) though not very hopeful after reading in this forum about Indian race applications.

I have 2 questions and request suggestions

- is it very beneficial that I update ICA about it or it will mean that my application time will be counted from the new update
- how do I update ICA about this

Indian applicant,
EP1 pass
Age 30
MBA from IIM, B-Tech from IIT, CFA
Working in bank
In singapore since Apr 2011

Wife
EP1 pass
Working in bank
In singapore since Mar 2012
India, Chartered Accountant

Daughter is 2 year old and in singapore since Mar 2012

Thanks and appreciate your suggestions

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Post by Wd40 » Thu, 20 Jun 2013 7:24 pm

Its not a matter of whether it is beneficial or not.
It is mandatory to update ICA, if anything material about your profile changes, salary is definitely one of them

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Post by thisisashish » Thu, 20 Jun 2013 7:37 pm

Wd40 wrote:Its not a matter of whether it is beneficial or not.
It is mandatory to update ICA, if anything material about your profile changes, salary is definitely one of them
Thanks. How do I update the ICA?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 20 Jun 2013 8:19 pm

Basic salary is not a material change. It CAN be. A decrease of salary would need to be updated. An increase that would qualify you for a new employment pass would be. If you are on a P1 @ 8K and bumped to 9.6K (20%) I wouldn't bother as it's not really material. But if you basic is 10K and bumped 20% to 12k, then you are qualified for a PEP. That is a material change, or if you are already in PEP territory and you are bumped into offshore PEP application territory (18+K) it's a benchmark and would warrant notification. Also, births/deaths, marriages/divorces, Additional degree(s) (if relevant to your work).

Everybody generally gets a COLA yearly, so just saying a increment (whether 20% or 5%, if it doesn't change anything material) is not really required. However, if it makes you feel better, by all means, notify them. ;-)
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Post by thisisashish » Thu, 20 Jun 2013 8:57 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Basic salary is not a material change. It CAN be. A decrease of salary would need to be updated. An increase that would qualify you for a new employment pass would be. If you are on a P1 @ 8K and bumped to 9.6K (20%) I wouldn't bother as it's not really material. But if you basic is 10K and bumped 20% to 12k, then you are qualified for a PEP. That is a material change, or if you are already in PEP territory and you are bumped into offshore PEP application territory (18+K) it's a benchmark and would warrant notification. Also, births/deaths, marriages/divorces, Additional degree(s) (if relevant to your work).

Everybody generally gets a COLA yearly, so just saying a increment (whether 20% or 5%, if it doesn't change anything material) is not really required. However, if it makes you feel better, by all means, notify them. ;-)
Thanks. Yes it moves from P1 to PEP area. So what is the best way to notify? Does this require the employer to fill the annex form again?

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Post by Mi Amigo » Thu, 20 Jun 2013 9:44 pm

thisisashish wrote:So what is the best way to notify? Does this require the employer to fill the annex form again?
I'd suggest you either email or call them to ask about this. I used this email address to contact the ICA during my PR application process:

[email protected]

And here's the phone number from their Contact Us page:

6391 6100
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Post by allmail » Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:11 pm

thisisashish wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:Basic salary is not a material change. It CAN be. A decrease of salary would need to be updated. An increase that would qualify you for a new employment pass would be. If you are on a P1 @ 8K and bumped to 9.6K (20%) I wouldn't bother as it's not really material. But if you basic is 10K and bumped 20% to 12k, then you are qualified for a PEP. That is a material change, or if you are already in PEP territory and you are bumped into offshore PEP application territory (18+K) it's a benchmark and would warrant notification. Also, births/deaths, marriages/divorces, Additional degree(s) (if relevant to your work).

Everybody generally gets a COLA yearly, so just saying a increment (whether 20% or 5%, if it doesn't change anything material) is not really required. However, if it makes you feel better, by all means, notify them. ;-)
Thanks. Yes it moves from P1 to PEP area. So what is the best way to notify? Does this require the employer to fill the annex form again?

No need. Just visit ICA with original and photocopies of the documents you wish to update. You can walk-in anytime within office hours. No need appointment. Inform the counter staff you are their to update records in your PR application, they will give you forms and Queue no. to see officer. Dont forget to bring your acknowledgment page (with PR application reference no.) which they gave while submitting your PR application..

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Post by thisisashish » Thu, 25 Jul 2013 3:22 pm

My application got rejected in less than 4 months after application.
Got the rejection before I could submit documents for the increased salary.

Kindly advise if it makes sense to reapply? When and what changes could strengthen my case.

Thanks.

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Post by Saint » Thu, 25 Jul 2013 3:43 pm

thisisashish wrote:My application got rejected in less than 4 months after application.
Got the rejection before I could submit documents for the increased salary.

Kindly advise if it makes sense to reapply? When and what changes could strengthen my case.

Thanks.
Absolutely no point in reapplying. The Gahmen would have most likely looked at your application and decided there's no additional benefit to Singapore in granting you PR. The Gahmen will know exactly the reason for you applying for PR and it's something they are beginning to put a stop to.

Wait until you get the official letter through and I'm guessing it won't say a timeline for reapplying and you can remain in Singapore on your EPs

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Post by Wd40 » Thu, 25 Jul 2013 3:51 pm

thisisashish wrote:My application got rejected in less than 4 months after application.
Got the rejection before I could submit documents for the increased salary.

Kindly advise if it makes sense to reapply? When and what changes could strengthen my case.

Thanks.
Sorry to hear man. I guess only plastic surgery can strengthen your case, or rather our case :-|

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 25 Jul 2013 4:09 pm

Plastic surgery? I though that was just external cosmetics? :-|
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Post by the lynx » Thu, 25 Jul 2013 4:10 pm

Wd40 wrote:
thisisashish wrote:My application got rejected in less than 4 months after application.
Got the rejection before I could submit documents for the increased salary.

Kindly advise if it makes sense to reapply? When and what changes could strengthen my case.

Thanks.
Sorry to hear man. I guess only plastic surgery can strengthen your case, or rather our case :-|
I think changing passport would be a better solution.

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Post by rdueej » Thu, 25 Jul 2013 4:36 pm

The high salary might have been a plus, but I guess you applied too early.

From your first post, it seems that you have been here for 2 years now and could not have submitted the 3 tax assessments required. The application might have been approved in earlier years (c. 2008), but it's been rejected now, maybe a result of the current political climate and your nationality.

Wait for the rejection letter in the mail and see if it indicates whether they invite you to apply again after some months/years.

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Post by yogaloungeforever » Thu, 25 Jul 2013 5:35 pm

I guess a change in facial features to that of chinese and a passport change to m'asian passport :D


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Wd40 wrote:
thisisashish wrote:My application got rejected in less than 4 months after application.
Got the rejection before I could submit documents for the increased salary.

Kindly advise if it makes sense to reapply? When and what changes could strengthen my case.

Thanks.
Sorry to hear man. I guess only plastic surgery can strengthen your case, or rather our case :-|
I think changing passport would be a better solution.
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Post by Wd40 » Sun, 08 Jun 2014 12:28 pm

Mi Amigo wrote:
thisisashish wrote:So what is the best way to notify? Does this require the employer to fill the annex form again?
I'd suggest you either email or call them to ask about this. I used this email address to contact the ICA during my PR application process:

[email protected]

And here's the phone number from their Contact Us page:

6391 6100
Thanks for the email, Mi Amigo. In my case, since I reapplied for in Feb(its still pending) my job has changed but salary not changed, my passport has been renewed and Passport number has changed and my mailing address also changed.

Just emailed the updated details!

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