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Postby JR8 » Fri, 21 Jun 2013 8:13 am

AngMoG wrote: Then, once you live together for a year or more, and well before her student visa runs out, is the time to marry.


The time to marry is when you suddenly realise you wish to spend the rest of your life with someone.

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious.

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Postby AngMoG » Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:26 am

JR8 wrote:
AngMoG wrote: Then, once you live together for a year or more, and well before her student visa runs out, is the time to marry.


The time to marry is when you suddenly realise you wish to spend the rest of your life with someone.

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious.


Yup, I kind of assumed that will be the underlying reason; but ultimately his responsibility to figure that out. But that decision sometimes has to be made earlier or forced if external circumstances dictate it. Just have to be careful that the circumstances are actually external, and not forced by the other party. (Don't stick your d in crazy...)

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Postby x9200 » Fri, 21 Jun 2013 6:06 pm

Yep, both admin and HR not the best ones. It's not my area and I don't know if, or where, but maybe she can get some sort of scholarship if she is as good as you are suggesting?

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Postby singapore86 » Mon, 24 Jun 2013 3:11 am

I just found out that the company who has made me an offer can actually sponsor her as my dependent. But as per he comments here, it looks like the authorities will never accept it. It's such a shame. Still maybe worth a shot.

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Postby singapore86 » Tue, 25 Jun 2013 9:57 pm

Hi guys,

I spoke to some immigration consultants about this. They advised that the Singapore authorities are not very forthcoming to boyfriends and girlfriends. However, they said we can try and put a strong case together about our relationship documenting absolutely everything. How we met, where, how often we visit, how I support her financially, emails, visits to each other, photos, just everything from our own perspective.

I mean, do we really have a 0% chance? Once the case officer reads our report he'll just reject it straight away? It's a long distance relationship, but we really want to spend the rest of our lives with each other.

Hope someone can advise. We are going to start writing our statutory declaration and also visit a solicitor here to swear an oath, etc. Has anyone EVER had any luck in a similar situation? Or has anyone ever read of the application being accepted? The company that has made me an offer can sponsor her too, for a ltvp.

Thanks.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:17 pm

Yes, there are those who have successfully documented and gotten an LTVP for their gf/bfl as a common law spouse, and I'd be willing to bet there are those who have never shacked up together who have also made statutory declaration that they had and have also gotten it. Provided you are both from western countries, you will stand a good chance, but if the female is Asian, I wouldn't bet a slug nickle on it unless she has western citizenship already.

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Postby AngMoG » Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:18 pm

If you had lived together for a significant amount of time, your gf could maybe qualify for a DP, if she is regarded as your common-law "wife".

But in your case, it's really just an LDR, there simply is not a lot to document to begin with.

I'd say you have a slightly higher than 0% chance - maybe 0.01% or so :P

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:29 pm

AngMoG wrote:If you had lived together for a significant amount of time, your gf could maybe qualify for a DP, if she is regarded as your common-law "wife".

But in your case, it's really just an LDR, there simply is not a lot to document to begin with.

I'd say you have a slightly higher than 0% chance - maybe 0.01% or so :P


Only if the country of origin recognizes the common law union as a legal union and you can get paperwork to attest to that fact. Then "maybe", otherwise it won't fly.

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Postby JR8 » Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:44 pm

singapore86 wrote: How we met, where, how often we visit, how I support her financially, emails, visits to each other, photos, just everything from our own perspective.

I mean, do we really have a 0% chance? Once the case officer reads our report he'll just reject it straight away? It's a long distance relationship, but we really want to spend the rest of our lives with each other.


So with a cold-head, she's just some occasional, you don't even live with her.?

If you don't live with her at home, why should she be some peripheral baggage over here?

(Just sayin)

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Postby singapore86 » Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:30 pm

JR8 I don't live with her yet, so all we can do at the moment is visit each other once a month. This is what we've been doing for the past year. The original plan was for her to come here on a study visa and at the same time live with me and then marry before it expires. But now I've been made a verbal offer in Singapore that I will accept.

sundaymorningstaple - she is Ukranian - they're not in the EU. I'm a British Citizen.

But seriously, everyone here is still saying that it wont be accepted because we don't live together? Would the case officer simply reject it just because we don't live together no matter how much evidence we provide? I wish there was someone here who could explain about their own experience and if they got a LTVP for their girlfriend/boyfriend without living with each other too.

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Postby PNGMK » Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:38 pm

singapore86 wrote:JR8 I don't live with her yet, so all we can do at the moment is visit each other once a month. This is what we've been doing for the past year. The original plan was for her to come here on a study visa and at the same time live with me and then marry before it expires. But now I've been made a verbal offer in Singapore that I will accept.

sundaymorningstaple - she is Ukranian - they're not in the EU. I'm a British Citizen.

But seriously, everyone here is still saying that it wont be accepted because we don't live together? Would the case officer simply reject it just because we don't live together no matter how much evidence we provide? I wish there was someone here who could explain about their own experience and if they got a LTVP for their girlfriend/boyfriend without living with each other too.


I've seen it done. You can try.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:40 pm

Unless you are co-habitating, you cannot be considered in a couple or common law or de facto relationship. In fact, it's no different that a boyfriend/girlfriend going to different universities or working in different cities. Doubtful that you will be able to make it fly.

The government of Singapore is really not interested on the face of it but they don't want to be seen as promoting "non-Asian" values.

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:23 am

singapore86 wrote:I wish there was someone here who could explain about their own experience and if they got a LTVP for their girlfriend/boyfriend without living with each other too.


Well 5+ years here and I haven't seen one.

Shall we pregnate our duck guns, and thence recline, just in case one comes along... I suggest #4 shot for a load. The ladies of the party usually leave contented with that.



p.s. LTVP mean de facto marriage, not trying to hook up with some randomer bought from a catalogue!

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Postby singapore86 » Wed, 26 Jun 2013 3:39 am

Well, a few here have seen it done from here apparently, so that gives me some little hope I guess.

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Postby x9200 » Wed, 26 Jun 2013 8:22 am

I think you got something wrong. What we can see with a reasonably high success rates is getting LTVP for a trailing spouse of opposite sex unmarried couples where they can deliver a proof of cohabitation.

I don't recall a single case for granting LTVP (leaving alone DP) for any form of unmarried LDR couples.


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