OH, I completely missed it and thought you were serious. It sounds like something a local would say, without realizing Indonesia is a founding member of ASEAN and this isn't the kind of thing they could be kicked out over anyway. (Again, I wouldn't expect most local to make that distinction).BedokAmerican wrote:I was being sarcastic when I made the comment about Sg wanting to kick Indonesia out of ASEAN. Sorry, maybe my sarcasm was too over the top.
I made the comment because Sg is upset with Indonesia over the fires causing the smog and Indonesian officials today said Sg is "acting like a child" over the haze.
Yeah I've observed the same thing. The numbers are ~180 by me now, but it's thick, yellow, and I'm coughing a bunch. I haven't before today.Akimbo wrote:Saw the reading at NEA at 6AM...it reads 94...and I look outside, and it looks and smells worse than yesterday morning...
ha ha no way am I going to question itAkimbo wrote:I was actually referring to the gahmen policy...something like "we do it so that we would not cause panic to the masses" sort of stuff.
And would it actually be defamation? I'm just questioning the comment that was made (in public) which of course anybody else can also question because of the discrepancy between the reading and the actual sighting of today's haze...or?
Akimbo wrote: And would it actually be defamation? I'm just questioning the comment that was made (in public) which of course anybody else can also question because of the discrepancy between the reading and the actual sighting of today's haze...or?
OOT: well, what I can say is that some of the local officials in Indonesia may rant first, and after that, revise the previous statement(s). I'm not trying to "burn" the local officials, but sadly, it's a known "behavior". It's kinda complicated, but that's the way it is (although the transformation is in progress).BedokAmerican wrote:I was being sarcastic when I made the comment about Sg wanting to kick Indonesia out of ASEAN. Sorry, maybe my sarcasm was too over the top.
I made the comment because Sg is upset with Indonesia over the fires causing the smog and Indonesian officials today said Sg is "acting like a child" over the haze.
May be because for a country like Indonesia, this is no big deal and not worth dealing with, and they dont give a damn about a tiny so called developed country that is its neighbourv4jr4 wrote:OOT: well, what I can say is that some of the local officials in Indonesia may rant first, and after that, revise the previous statement(s). I'm not trying to "burn" the local officials, but sadly, it's a known "behavior". It's kinda complicated, but that's the way it is (although the transformation is in progress).BedokAmerican wrote:I was being sarcastic when I made the comment about Sg wanting to kick Indonesia out of ASEAN. Sorry, maybe my sarcasm was too over the top.
I made the comment because Sg is upset with Indonesia over the fires causing the smog and Indonesian officials today said Sg is "acting like a child" over the haze.
BTT: even if Singapore and Malaysia are affected with the smog, the situation in Riau is worse (CMIIW). Although last year the smog wasn't this bad, I just wonder why there's no permanent solution for this.
Well, based on the corruption index... oh, nevermindWd40 wrote:May be because for a country like Indonesia, this is no big deal and not worth dealing with, and they dont give a damn about a tiny so called developed country that is its neighbour![]()
Barely dodge the bullet, but I'm still hereWd40 wrote:Hey Vajra! Welcome back
There is a permanent solution for this. Malaysia has already done it. Indonesia doesn't want to do it because it costs money and takes time. Corruption. Rather than burning the jungle, Malaysia cuts it down, then buries it into large trenches with bulldozers. It then takes about 3 years for the plant material to decompose, at which time the land can be used for oil palms.v4jr4 wrote:BTT: even if Singapore and Malaysia are affected with the smog, the situation in Riau is worse (CMIIW). Although last year the smog wasn't this bad, I just wonder why there's no permanent solution for this.
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