The "game" position of Rescuer is distinct from that of a genuine rescuer in an emergency, such as a firefighter who saves a victim from a burning building or a lifeguard who saves a victim from drowning. As a drama role, there is something dishonest or unspoken about the Rescuer's attempts, or at best, a mixed motive or need to be a rescuer or have a victim to help. In fact, 'The Karpman Triangle game inhibits real problem-solving...creates confusion and distress, not solutions'. A drama triangle "Rescuer" plays the role more because they are driven to be a rescuer as a way of avoiding looking at their own anxiety, underlying feelings than because the victim needs their involvement, as in the case of a fireman/rescuer.
In Eric Berne's words, 'The first group, is playing "I'm Only Trying to Help You", while the others are helping people'.
The situation plays out when a situation arises and a person takes a role as victim or persecutor. Others then take the other roles. Thereafter 'the two players move around the triangle, thus switching roles', so that for example the victim turns on the rescuer, the rescuer switches to persecuting -- or as often happens the rescuer ends up entering the situation and becoming a victim.
+1Wd40 wrote:Singapore is little bit different from the rest of the world. In the rest of the world, for eg, people have relatively much higher freedom to excercise their natural instincts.
Singapore in its quest to create an extremely oversafe and sterile enviroment has killed much of those nature instincts from the natives and turned them into zombies.
Missed your post the first time. Sorrythe lynx wrote:Hence my point. Why must one beat up the other person to break a fight?zzm9980 wrote:See, I must be the odd-ball. I wouldn't mind my own business. I would try to break it up and/or call the police. I would not just ignore it. Breaking it up does not mean trying to beat down the guy (or girl) as some of the previous examples in this thread.
And what if the male partner is trying to throw his Malay wife over the HDB parapet? You HAVE to intervene and then the muslim shithead turns his attention on to you.zzm9980 wrote:See, I must be the odd-ball. I wouldn't mind my own business. I would try to break it up and/or call the police. I would not just ignore it. Breaking it up does not mean trying to beat down the guy (or girl) as some of the previous examples in this thread.
The mistake, even through the fog of ill-placed sarcasm, is to see domestic violence as a one way thing (male on female, within a heterosexual relationship); but it's not. Far from it.Hannieroo wrote:All that evil required is for good men to do nothing.
Domestic violence is the woman's fault, rape is entirely down to short skirts and the expectation that women just want to settle down with a man is because anything else will tax our poor little brains.
Obviously!Hannieroo wrote: From what I can gather violence towards male partners is an issue but obviously not as widespread. Although the UK has been pushing for more recognition of it, particularly in the gay community.
IME (and only IME do I speak) Asian women have the art of non violent abuse down to a fine point; they are masters at provocation, emotional blackmail, hysterics, back stabbing, financial abuse, psychological abuse etc I'm surprised NUS doesn't offer degrees in it. None of this is actionable in Singapore courts unlike the west. The men are inarticulate due to the multi language situation (speak 3 but fluent in none) and incapable of arguing back in a reasoned manner and hence resort to beatings.Hannieroo wrote:I don't think I said that it was. The almost entirely female slant is from people commenting how refreshing the patriarchal stance is here. So no mistake on my part.
From what I can gather violence towards male partners is an issue but obviously not as widespread. Although the UK has been pushing for more recognition of it, particularly in the gay community.
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