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Postby bgd » Tue, 14 May 2013 6:01 pm

x9200 wrote:He is writing from Israel and we see almost every month people including the IT sector who can not handle the most basic IT tasks namely the use of search engines.


But they don't usually come from Israel and they always have a Masters. 8-)

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Postby zzm9980 » Tue, 14 May 2013 9:21 pm

Sergei82 wrote:IT industry in Israel is quite large and diverse - it is not a village, so there is absolutely nothing dangerous in posting a few details. I do not see any grounds for receiving 8K/month. I know a local sys. admin who earns 2K/month in his company - also an IT guy.


No, but if he is going to manage a team of DBAs, how many Singaporean companies are hiring young single Israeli guys to do just that right about now? Probably not many. This community is quite well know, it is not very difficult to figure out who someone is.

Someone customer facing with 5yrs experience depending on the specific skill-set (which he hasn't shared) 8k isn't unreasonable.

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Postby JR8 » Tue, 14 May 2013 10:39 pm

marc_h wrote:Thanks a lot guys, according to this site http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living I need about 7,943 S$ in Singapore to maintain the same standard of life that I have in Israel with my current salary. :) I hope I can get that


'*Maintain the same standard*'... ?

No, don't move for less than a 20% hike, plus all the allowances. I mean, why would you?

Say S$10k/mo, baseline, then + the usual package trimmings...

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 14 May 2013 10:52 pm

A lot depends on how many people are looking for him at home, doesn't it? :lol:

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Postby Strong Eagle » Tue, 14 May 2013 11:55 pm

marc_h wrote:Do you guys think it's feasible to ask for $7000 - $8000 SD monthly salary? Considering the following criteria that I have:
- 5 years experience
-B.S. degree in IT.
-Good recommendations from my current managers

thanks


The numbers would be at the upper limit of what you could expect to receive to be a technical project manager. This is what suppliers would pay. Another way to look at it is $1000 per month for every year of experience.

However, if you want to manage projects, what is your project management background? Do you have certification? You will have a lot of competition from India, in particular... who have worked for 5 years there and now are willing to work in Singapore for less money than you.

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Postby Dert42 » Wed, 15 May 2013 5:08 am

So although I haven't even been to Singapore yet, I do already have a job in IT.

In my company, best I can tell around 7-8k SGD a month would place him in the "experienced" to "senior" catagory.

I have pretty much no eperience in the matter, other then to say I'm on the management level in IT, and make significantly more then that.

Also I'm 15 years exp, and shockingly I don't have a college degree.

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Postby Sooner8 » Wed, 15 May 2013 7:02 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
While we are surrounded by Muslim countries (like Israel) we don't have incoming on a regular basis, so you will probably sleep a lot better.

:cool:


Thank you SMS for pointing this out. I am not geographically challenged but had overlooked that part of being surrounded by such "friendlies".
‘While at Raffles, why not visit Singapore?' Indeed.

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 15 May 2013 11:46 am

Sooner8 wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
While we are surrounded by Muslim countries (like Israel) we don't have incoming on a regular basis, so you will probably sleep a lot better.

:cool:


Thank you SMS for pointing this out. I am not geographically challenged but had overlooked that part of being surrounded by such "friendlies".


I can't imagine what the friendlies to the north who would like to see stricter Islamic punishments enacted think of Israelis. Lucky for OP, they lost the election.

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Postby x9200 » Wed, 15 May 2013 12:17 pm

You don't need to imagine and it does not need to go more stricter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_re ... f_Malaysia
Malaysia has never recognised the state of Israel and has no diplomatic ties with the state.[4] It has remained a strong supporter of the State of Palestine,[5] and has called for Israel to be taken to the International Criminal Court over the Gaza flotilla raid.[6] Malaysian peacekeeping forces are present in Lebanon[7] and has contributed to many other UN peacekeeping missions.[8] The lack of recognition of Israel became an issue with respect to Malaysia's participation in a United Nations peacekeeping force after the Lebanon-Israel conflict of 2006.

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Postby the lynx » Wed, 15 May 2013 1:21 pm

Chelsea fans will always remember this antisemitic saga on its Israeli player in KL few years ago:

Yossi Benayoun faced jeers and abuse from the crowds at a match in Kuala Lumpur this week, when he became the first Israeli footballer in years to play in Malaysia, a mostly Muslim country.
Benayoun helped secure Chelsea a 1-0 victory over the Malaysian XI team in Thursday's pre-season match.
But the midfielder was booed whenever he touched the ball by many of the 85,000 fans in the stadium during the first half, before being substituted at half-time.
Malaysia has no diplomatic ties with Israel, and this week a national paper connected to the Malaysian government printed an article accusing "foreign Jewish groups" of undermining the country.
Benayoun still made it further than his fellow Israeli player Tal Ben Haim, who along with Avram Grant was denied a visa before a scheduled Chelsea match in Malaysia in 2008.


http://www.thejc.com/news/world-news/52069/malaysian-fans-shout-abuse-chelseas-yossi-benayoun

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 15 May 2013 1:43 pm

the lynx wrote:Chelsea fans will always remember this antisemitic saga on its Israeli player in KL few years ago:


I like Malaysia, a lot, but things like this are just despicable and sadly it reflects very poorly on the whole country.

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Postby Barnsley » Wed, 15 May 2013 6:01 pm

Dert42 wrote:So although I haven't even been to Singapore yet, I do already have a job in IT.

In my company, best I can tell around 7-8k SGD a month would place him in the "experienced" to "senior" catagory.

I have pretty much no eperience in the matter, other then to say I'm on the management level in IT, and make significantly more then that.

Also I'm 15 years exp, and shockingly I don't have a college degree.


Why is it shocking that you don't have a college degree?

There are a lot of people in the world who progress up the ladder without degrees, or with degrees from a totally different field.
Life is short, paddle harder!!

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Postby Wd40 » Wed, 15 May 2013 6:37 pm

Barnsley wrote:
Dert42 wrote:So although I haven't even been to Singapore yet, I do already have a job in IT.

In my company, best I can tell around 7-8k SGD a month would place him in the "experienced" to "senior" catagory.

I have pretty much no eperience in the matter, other then to say I'm on the management level in IT, and make significantly more then that.

Also I'm 15 years exp, and shockingly I don't have a college degree.


Why is it shocking that you don't have a college degree?

There are a lot of people in the world who progress up the ladder without degrees, or with degrees from a totally different field.


Agree. To add, your 15 years exp tells your age. If you were born in the 80s though, its unlikely you will do much progress without a degree

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 15 May 2013 7:33 pm

the lynx wrote:Chelsea fans will always remember this antisemitic saga on its Israeli player in KL few years ago:

Yossi Benayoun faced jeers and abuse from the crowds at a match in Kuala Lumpur this week, when he became the first Israeli footballer in years to play in Malaysia, a mostly Muslim country.
Benayoun helped secure Chelsea a 1-0 victory over the Malaysian XI team in Thursday's pre-season match.
But the midfielder was booed whenever he touched the ball by many of the 85,000 fans in the stadium during the first half, before being substituted at half-time.
Malaysia has no diplomatic ties with Israel, and this week a national paper connected to the Malaysian government printed an article accusing "foreign Jewish groups" of undermining the country.
Benayoun still made it further than his fellow Israeli player Tal Ben Haim, who along with Avram Grant was denied a visa before a scheduled Chelsea match in Malaysia in 2008.


http://www.thejc.com/news/world-news/52069/malaysian-fans-shout-abuse-chelseas-yossi-benayoun


And I still wasn't sure if I was going to head to Bangkok or KL (or both) for the matches in July. That makes it easy!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 15 May 2013 8:20 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
Wd40 wrote:If you were born in the 80s though, its unlikely you will do much progress without a degree


Oh, thanks for clarifying that. I was under the mistaken impression I was "progressing" rather well. Always happy to be corrected :cool:


Once again, WD40, hoist by his own petard. Scoring a lot of own goals lately. I guess the PR rejection has befuddled his grey matter.


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