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HELP: Spousal PR called to register for NS
Hi everyone!
I'm a Singaporean but my American husband is a PR (on account of being a spouse, and as father of a Singaporean-American baby), and today in the mail we got a notification from the army requiring him to register. It's a horrible shock, he's 31 this year and as long as I've been living here it's absolutely unheard of. I was wondering if anyone else has been notified in the same manner, and if there's any chance it's purely administrative and they only require registration but not actual service?! What is the experience of other spousal PR expats in recent years?
I'd appreciate any help on this that you can give - we're in a bit of a bind here, with an eight-month-old baby and everything. He simply /can't/ do NS, it's ridiculous, he only got his PR early this year and had only been in Singapore for six months or so prior to that
I'm a Singaporean but my American husband is a PR (on account of being a spouse, and as father of a Singaporean-American baby), and today in the mail we got a notification from the army requiring him to register. It's a horrible shock, he's 31 this year and as long as I've been living here it's absolutely unheard of. I was wondering if anyone else has been notified in the same manner, and if there's any chance it's purely administrative and they only require registration but not actual service?! What is the experience of other spousal PR expats in recent years?
I'd appreciate any help on this that you can give - we're in a bit of a bind here, with an eight-month-old baby and everything. He simply /can't/ do NS, it's ridiculous, he only got his PR early this year and had only been in Singapore for six months or so prior to that
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Yep, he should have registered upon receiving his PR. Hopefully, they will give him he normal wavier, but then again, with all the crap going around about NS and True Blue Singaporean, they may well try. but I seriously doubt it.
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He will get a waiver your statement is totally unfounded and miss leading. Probably best leave this to people with experienceWd40 wrote:So you sponsored PR for your husband without fully understanding the implications?
At 31, he is still very young and fit. I would be surprised if he really gets a waiver.
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Re: HELP: Spousal PR called to register for NS
Don't worry yourself, I had to register for NS after getting my PR and I was 39 years old! Immediate waiverjaniceliu88 wrote:Hi everyone!
I'm a Singaporean but my American husband is a PR (on account of being a spouse, and as father of a Singaporean-American baby), and today in the mail we got a notification from the army requiring him to register. It's a horrible shock, he's 31 this year and as long as I've been living here it's absolutely unheard of. I was wondering if anyone else has been notified in the same manner, and if there's any chance it's purely administrative and they only require registration but not actual service?! What is the experience of other spousal PR expats in recent years?
I'd appreciate any help on this that you can give - we're in a bit of a bind here, with an eight-month-old baby and everything. He simply /can't/ do NS, it's ridiculous, he only got his PR early this year and had only been in Singapore for six months or so prior to that
You're not really making sense or have a point, unless you're just trying to spout hyperbolic statements to start something.Wd40 wrote:If a 31 year old, family ties applicant gets a waiver from NS then who does NS really? Why have NS at all in that case, for family ties applicants, might as well completely remove NS for all 1st gen PRs
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Once again you are letting that bulldog mouth overload the hummingbird butt.Wd40 wrote:If a 31 year old, family ties applicant gets a waiver from NS then who does NS really? Why have NS at all in that case, for family ties applicants, might as well completely remove NS for all 1st gen PRs
NS is primarily for 2nd Gen PRs and should you be luckly enough to gain citizenship at the age of 23 or something using the family ties scheme, then you probably would have to do NS. The reason all male PR's have to register while under the age of 40 is because is the country did come under attack, then they could call him up for service if required, e.g., he had a skillset that could be usable by the military in a wartime situation.
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+1 and same to SMS tooSaint wrote:He will get a waiver your statement is totally unfounded and miss leading. Probably best leave this to people with experience

The only case over 14 years I know of somebody who had to do NS when he got PR was a guy, born in SG but moved to India .. and when he was 26, came to work in SG, and when he applied for EP, he was asked to apply PR as he was Born in Singapore and he was then asked to report to CMPB

Still he says, he didn't have to fret it .. he was assigned to some light stuff in SCDF for 6 months and that was that .. and the recalls ..
And those were the days things happened so ..
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Thanks everyone - we have to wait for June 3rd to register and find out, but thanks for being so supportive (mostly, anyway, apart from the occasional "just serve NS what, got PR" troll that seems to come with the expat forum terrain). When we got the letter we were worried it could necessarily mean being called up for service, thanks for clarifying.
sundaymorningstaple, yeah, that anti-foreigner sentiment is what's troubling me. In Singapore all it takes is a single policy change to screw you over well and good, and even though it would be plainly unreasonable to do so, it's not like Singapore is well-known for its reason and reasonableness. Ecurelix, that's really comforting to know that it's quite the anomaly, thanks for that.
sundaymorningstaple, yeah, that anti-foreigner sentiment is what's troubling me. In Singapore all it takes is a single policy change to screw you over well and good, and even though it would be plainly unreasonable to do so, it's not like Singapore is well-known for its reason and reasonableness. Ecurelix, that's really comforting to know that it's quite the anomaly, thanks for that.
Well let's see, who does NS? Young, able-bodied men who have lived their lives in Singapore and don't have babies and mouths to feed, living under the roofs of their parents'? UM YES I THINK THAT'S WHO. And actually, they have removed NS for 1st gen PRs, but only if you're incredibly rich or have a particular skill that is deemed currently desirable, but I guess you're okay with that huh. But the right of a Singaporean to marry whoever they choose and not have their collective lives ruined (and that of their young, Singaporean baby), <i>that</i> you're not okay with. Wow.Wd40 wrote:If a 31 year old, family ties applicant gets a waiver from NS then who does NS really? Why have NS at all in that case, for family ties applicants, might as well completely remove NS for all 1st gen PRs
Don't mind WD40, he's just salty his PR was rejected.janiceliu88 wrote: Well let's see, who does NS? Young, able-bodied men who have lived their lives in Singapore and don't have babies and mouths to feed, living under the roofs of their parents'? UM YES I THINK THAT'S WHO. And actually, they have removed NS for 1st gen PRs, but only if you're incredibly rich or have a particular skill that is deemed currently desirable, but I guess you're okay with that huh. But the right of a Singaporean to marry whoever they choose and not have their collective lives ruined (and that of their young, Singaporean baby), <i>that</i> you're not okay with. Wow.
i have served NS with young able bodied men (NSFs) who had babies and other mouths to feed.janiceliu88 wrote:...Well let's see, who does NS? Young, able-bodied men who have lived their lives in Singapore and don't have babies and mouths to feed, living under the roofs of their parents'? UM YES I THINK THAT'S WHO...
i have also served NS with old able bodied men (NSFs) that were somehow overseas for a long (long) time.
but you might be on to something - i've not served NS with men that satisfies both criteria.
hello,
i realise this is a bit old, but i would like to check with the OP what happened in the end with regards to the ns issue?
i'm in a similar situation - my husband is american and we are expecting a baby in a few months' and thinking of settling down in sg, but i don't want him to be away in the army while we have a new born baby... so we are wondering if we should apply PR for him or simply bring up our son in the us..
i realise this is a bit old, but i would like to check with the OP what happened in the end with regards to the ns issue?
i'm in a similar situation - my husband is american and we are expecting a baby in a few months' and thinking of settling down in sg, but i don't want him to be away in the army while we have a new born baby... so we are wondering if we should apply PR for him or simply bring up our son in the us..
Your yankee husband will be fine. Worry about having a son who WILL have an NS obligation.worldpeas wrote:hello,
i realise this is a bit old, but i would like to check with the OP what happened in the end with regards to the ns issue?
i'm in a similar situation - my husband is american and we are expecting a baby in a few months' and thinking of settling down in sg, but i don't want him to be away in the army while we have a new born baby... so we are wondering if we should apply PR for him or simply bring up our son in the us..
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