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Post by x9200 » Wed, 08 May 2013 1:10 pm

ecureilx wrote:
beppi wrote:
Wd40 wrote:What is the risk? There is no way you can lead or mislead on that regard. Its a matter of whether they want you or not.
PR stands for PERMANENT RESIDENT and they give it only to people who look like they will stay in Singapore PERMANENTLY.
People who think like you or the previous poster are rejected - if MoM can see their thinking!
well, for an purpose, I don't know if MOM or ICA can mind read .. I know a fair number of people who even swore that their future was firmly anchored in Singapore .. and before even the ink dried in the paper when they got their PR they took off towards their next destination ..

So, pray, enlighten me .. how will MOM/ICA know your 'intent' ?? :D
They are not idiots and they can read between the lines and later make the judgment at your risk and cost of course. I would also tend to assume they are bright enough to understand that a person in his mid 20s staying in Singapore for some short time only is less likely to settle down here eventually than someone older with some longer local mileage.
Was it that difficult to understand? Probably I should make a statement that the expression "to read between the lines" should not be taken literally.

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Re: Thinking of applying for PR

Post by JustSee » Thu, 06 Nov 2014 3:06 pm

Resurrecting an old thread.

So I took the advice and decided to wait for another tax season + EP renewal to apply, applied in April this year. Yesterday received the letter that my PR was rejected.

Stats not changed much, other than I am older, after I applied for the PR I got a better job, finished a technical diploma (schools here would not take my transcripts from back home), %10 salary increase and registered for a degree... In that time since I last wrote I also had earned a few more professional certificates.

Is there any way to appeal? Or is it just not worth the time?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 06 Nov 2014 3:32 pm

Ethnicity problems perchance? I don't know of any other reason, other than knowing a wee bit about what you do and where your homeland is. I'm pretty sure your EP is probably secure for quite sometime in the future and if you are determined, maybe after the next GE in 2016, depending on the outcome of that election, the ground may well be sweeter. Otherwise, I'm at a loss as to your rejection as well. As you are only somewhere around 27 (based on your early posts here in 2012) you would not be what is called middle aged! :wink: In fact, from my perspective, you are positively young from my POV. :(
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Re: Thinking of applying for PR

Post by ecureilx » Thu, 06 Nov 2014 4:09 pm

JustSee wrote:Is there any way to appeal? Or is it just not worth the time?
For PR, appeals are only entertained if you are spouse of a PR/SC, from what I know !!

Others, book another appointment and re-submit, and pray ...

Attend church/temple/synagogue/mosque as appropriate !!



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Re: Thinking of applying for PR

Post by JustSee » Thu, 06 Nov 2014 4:13 pm

Hah, thanks, my EP still has a validity of over 2 years, I'm in no rush.

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Re: Thinking of applying for PR

Post by Wd40 » Thu, 06 Nov 2014 4:16 pm

ecureilx wrote:
JustSee wrote:Is there any way to appeal? Or is it just not worth the time?
For PR, appeals are only entertained if you are spouse of a PR/Singapore Citizenship, from what I know !!

Others, book another appointment and re-submit, and pray ...

Attend church/temple/synagogue/mosque as appropriate !!



SMS: "S" "C" (minus the quotes and space) -> see how it appears in the forum !!! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

All PR rejections can be appeallead and have been appealing all the time.
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Post by JustSee » Thu, 06 Nov 2014 4:21 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Ethnicity problems perchance? I don't know of any other reason, other than knowing a wee bit about what you do and where your homeland is. I'm pretty sure your EP is probably secure for quite sometime in the future and if you are determined, maybe after the next GE in 2016, depending on the outcome of that election, the ground may well be sweeter. Otherwise, I'm at a loss as to your rejection as well. As you are only somewhere around 27 (based on your early posts here in 2012) you would not be what is called middle aged! :wink: In fact, from my perspective, you are positively young from my POV. :(
Maybe ethnicity... Who knows, lots of white people around.

Will try to appeal or apply again.
28 now!

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Re: Thinking of applying for PR

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 06 Nov 2014 4:37 pm

Sorry. I actually meant to say nationality, not ethnicity. :(
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Post by Wd40 » Thu, 06 Nov 2014 4:50 pm

Along with race/nationality, the fact that OP is high salary earner and may jump country if the economy here suddenly goes bad and there certainly wont be enough jobs that will pay that much.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 06 Nov 2014 4:55 pm

Based on what I know about Just See, I don't think that's the reason in this case. I could be wrong though.
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Post by JustSee » Thu, 06 Nov 2014 5:24 pm

To satisfy the interest, white/Israeli is race/nationality.

@WD, with that argument there shouldn't be any high salaried PRs at all here...

Luckily, I get more than enough offers with that salary range and more that I keep declining, unlike many others, I am not chasing the money but rather something interesting to do.

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Post by Wd40 » Thu, 06 Nov 2014 6:51 pm

JustSee wrote:To satisfy the interest, white/Israeli is race/nationality.

@WD, with that argument there shouldn't be any high salaried PRs at all here...

Luckily, I get more than enough offers with that salary range and more that I keep declining, unlike many others, I am not chasing the money but rather something interesting to do.

Their rules keep changing all the time.

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Re: Thinking of applying for PR

Post by mystic_river » Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:47 am

Honestly, the way I see how people keep getting rejected for PRs (based on their profiles, which are much better than mine. Then again, I won't know which profile is better in the eyes of ICA anyway), I wonder if they'd even renew my REP next time. And even if they do, why would they want to?

Just realized, today marks exactly 14 years since I became PR.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:59 am

mystic, I feel the same way every day. And yes I wonder about my next REP renewal as I'm already at their 2nd Retirement Age! :o
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by mystic_river » Fri, 07 Nov 2014 5:46 pm

And being a Pakistani Muslim (albeit a non-practicing one - I wish the SG government could take that into consideration), I fear for my PR status even more considering the threat from ISIS. I can't even begin to comprehend how much would that affect my PR status, though I do feel that if I even had any chance of getting SC, they'd probably be nil by now.

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