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Postby x9200 » Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:23 pm

nakatago wrote:
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JR8 wrote:- Glossy carpark floors making cars, even at 2mph, squeal like in a 70s Starsky & Hutch show.

You don't want to know how it is to ride a motorbike on something like this when it rains outside. Almost all my near fall slippery encounters I had in the carparks.


Try just walking. This is just as bad as the tiles.

When you walk and slip there is no a quarter ton junk that may land on your foot.

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Postby Hannieroo » Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:26 pm

katbh wrote:My god Hannieroo...you get more and more complicated each post!


What? A little bit of body art never hurt anyone. Well, not much.

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Postby PNGMK » Fri, 14 Jun 2013 5:25 pm

Hannieroo wrote:
katbh wrote:My god Hannieroo...you get more and more complicated each post!


What? A little bit of body art never hurt anyone. Well, not much.


Tramp stamp?

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Postby Hannieroo » Fri, 14 Jun 2013 8:24 pm

You'll never know, only one is visible in normal clothing.

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Postby zzm9980 » Tue, 18 Jun 2013 6:53 pm

I want to throw this out there, my counter-observation of someone who is undergoing culture shock/having just arrived in Singapore:

- JR8 is progressively getting to be an angry poster. Since we know he isn't a noob to Singapore, but fresh for this term, it may be evidence of the invisible pressures exerted by society/the heat/the people on someone. We have the additional control in place of knowing it isn't work, as he is a kept man (or at least employed at his own leisure). :cool:

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Postby x9200 » Tue, 18 Jun 2013 7:02 pm

Things simply piled up beyond acceptable level. First his wife got him to buy her a detested ipad, now it also got dirty with the smog. Not many could handle such pressure.

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Postby zzm9980 » Tue, 18 Jun 2013 8:26 pm

x9200 wrote:Things simply piled up beyond acceptable level. First his wife got him to buy her a detested ipad, now it also got dirty with the smog. Not many could handle such pressure.


:D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol:

I wonder if JR8 hates Apple because it is American, or hates Americans because we have Apple.

(Just joking Jr8!)

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 19 Jun 2013 9:28 am

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x9200 wrote:Things simply piled up beyond acceptable level. First his wife got him to buy her a detested ipad, now it also got dirty with the smog. Not many could handle such pressure.


:D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol:

I wonder if JR8 hates Apple because it is American, or hates Americans because we have Apple.

(Just joking Jr8!)


Who-ever suggested I don't have a job, in fact I have two, c10hrs a day, 6 days a week; Three if you include following the each mornings wife's orders scribbled on Post-It's :lol:


p.s. I don't like Apple, their fakery, hypocrisy, faux nice people image. You don't become a billionaire (Steve Jobs) by being nice, rather you do it by being an absolute Grade A runt. 'The nice billionaire' is an oxymoron, internally a contradiction. If you want to be a runt (Bill Gates, Mike Bloomberg etc), then just get on with it, don't pretend otherwise.

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Postby bgd » Wed, 19 Jun 2013 11:11 am

JR8 wrote:p.s. I don't like Apple, their fakery, hypocrisy, faux nice people image. You don't become a billionaire (Steve Jobs) by being nice, rather you do it by being an absolute Grade A runt. 'The nice billionaire' is an oxymoron, internally a contradiction. If you want to be a runt (Bill Gates, Mike Bloomberg etc), then just get on with it, don't pretend otherwise.


Are you not confusing the man with his products? I don’t think Steve Jobs ever pretended to be anything other than Steve Jobs. It was public knowledge, even before his death, that he wasn’t a particularly nice character.

I would have thought Richard Branson would be a better example of someone who hides behind a ‘nice’ image.

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:07 pm

bgd wrote:Are you not confusing the man with his products? I don’t think Steve Jobs ever pretended to be anything other than Steve Jobs. It was public knowledge, even before his death, that he wasn’t a particularly nice character.

I would have thought Richard Branson would be a better example of someone who hides behind a ‘nice’ image.


I disagree. Apple act all cute and 'for and of the people', it's simple, they're completely brutal $hits. That IS why they're so successful.

There are no 'nice' billionaires (and I have met a few).

Richard Branson. I genuinely believe he's slightly different. He's like the original punk-entrepreneur. I mean sitting in J-class heading down into Narita, with a hottie giving you a full-on back massage in the Upper Class Lounge (While tanking the champers)... come on, what's not to like. [Normally I try and sleep on 12hr+ flights, on those Virgin Upper Class ones I'd make all efforts to stay awake, total riot, total PARTY-ON!]


... That was the product, although I realise it's sobered up now. When it started it was totally rock 'n roll. p.s. Yer know why do you think their early ads featured Alice Cooper and that ancient Brit glamour-puss? (Dynasty etc).

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Postby RobSg » Wed, 19 Jun 2013 1:09 pm

This is not really culture shock, but it is culture "surprising". I read an article recently (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 56670.html).

In my little world of living in an HDB flat, I am surprised to read that 17% of all Singapore household have more than a million dollars, excluding value of property and luxury goods. Singapore has the highest per capita wealth in the world- US$56,532. The super wealthy now consider Singapore home, buying up property. The number of Ferraris have gone from up to 450 from 142 in 2001. Anyway, this to me is surprising, as I venture out to my 4 dollar hawker food.

Singapore has become, or is becoming, the Monaco of Asia. I'm not sure if that's good or bad, but it's happened in the last 10 years. I've been here for 25 years. For a 66 year old eventual retiree, I'm not sure if I want to live in Monaco. I guess maybe it's time to give up my PR so someone else can live here and share in the wealth.

Rob

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Postby Steve1960 » Wed, 19 Jun 2013 3:20 pm

JR8 wrote:
bgd wrote:
Richard Branson. I genuinely believe he's slightly different. He's like the original punk-entrepreneur. I mean sitting in J-class heading down into Narita, with a hottie giving you a full-on back massage in the Upper Class Lounge (While tanking the champers)... come on, what's not to like. [Normally I try and sleep on 12hr+ flights, on those Virgin Upper Class ones I'd make all efforts to stay awake, total riot, total PARTY-ON!]


... That was the product, although I realise it's sobered up now. When it started it was totally rock 'n roll. p.s. Yer know why do you think their early ads featured Alice Cooper and that ancient Brit glamour-puss? (Dynasty etc).


I know its off topic but man you just reminded me of those glorious trips in Upper Class on Virgin. Given I am a Sinagpore Airlines bitch now I lost my Virgin gold card status last October and cried for a week :cry:

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 19 Jun 2013 4:31 pm

RobSg wrote:This is not really culture shock, but it is culture "surprising". I read an article recently (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 56670.html).

In my little world of living in an HDB flat, I am surprised to read that 17% of all Singapore household have more than a million dollars, excluding value of property and luxury goods. Singapore has the highest per capita wealth in the world- US$56,532. The super wealthy now consider Singapore home, buying up property. The number of Ferraris have gone from up to 450 from 142 in 2001. Anyway, this to me is surprising, as I venture out to my 4 dollar hawker food.

Singapore has become, or is becoming, the Monaco of Asia. I'm not sure if that's good or bad, but it's happened in the last 10 years. I've been here for 25 years. For a 66 year old eventual retiree, I'm not sure if I want to live in Monaco. I guess maybe it's time to give up my PR so someone else can live here and share in the wealth.

Rob


I hear you loud & clear Rob. :-|

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 19 Jun 2013 7:11 pm

Steve1960 wrote:
JR8 wrote:
bgd wrote:
Richard Branson. I genuinely believe he's slightly different. He's like the original punk-entrepreneur. I mean sitting in J-class heading down into Narita, with a hottie giving you a full-on back massage in the Upper Class Lounge (While tanking the champers)... come on, what's not to like. [Normally I try and sleep on 12hr+ flights, on those Virgin Upper Class ones I'd make all efforts to stay awake, total riot, total PARTY-ON!]


... That was the product, although I realise it's sobered up now. When it started it was totally rock 'n roll. p.s. Yer know why do you think their early ads featured Alice Cooper and that ancient Brit glamour-puss? (Dynasty etc).


I know its off topic but man you just reminded me of those glorious trips in Upper Class on Virgin. Given I am a Sinagpore Airlines bitch now I lost my Virgin gold card status last October and cried for a week :cry:



Alice cooper and Joan Collins.


When Virgin started long-haul everything changed. At least 'back in the day' they were mad. Walk up cocktail bars, in-flight massages*...


* They specifically didn't offer this into Osaka, as (apparently) 'gentleman executives' would unzip themselves and expect 'extras'.

Yeah, then fly domestic/US and witness the bitch/(man/woman hybrid) hefferlumps that prevail there... 'Welcome to xyz (defunct airline)... sit down and STFU. Here's your in-flight service, my 50" arse, one Budweiser (I'll poor that just to make sure you don't try and steal it, or keep it for later, or do... anti-American stuff with it) - '''You're welcome'''' ...'

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Postby stiwi » Wed, 19 Jun 2013 7:34 pm

RobSg wrote:[...]
Singapore has become, or is becoming, the Monaco of Asia. I'm not sure if that's good or bad, but it's happened in the last 10 years. I've been here for 25 years. For a 66 year old eventual retiree, I'm not sure if I want to live in Monaco. I guess maybe it's time to give up my PR so someone else can live here and share in the wealth.

Rob


Where would you move? I am not sure where else in Asia you can get cheap food considering civilised conditions? I am also sure that Monaco doesn't offer good value of living for middle class, it is either reach or super reach. Who else can afford having toasted sandwich for S$40? S$4 doesn't sound bad here then.

If you are reach you are looking for "safe heaven" to park your money, this is what Singapore became. I visited few showrooms to see new condos development, it is really surprising how well they are selling considering prices and "cooling measures" by government of introducing ABSD (additional buyer stamp duty) of 15% in addition to 3% for foreigners, not to mention high prices of these properties. It looks like for those with money, not much can stop them from investing here whether it is good or not.


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