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how to determine an authentic porcelain vase?

Post by shiranaihito » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:24 am

hi,

advise


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Post by Strong Eagle » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:40 am

What is it? Ming Dynasty?

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Post by the lynx » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:44 am

Run a carbon-14 dating test. The results will show you how old it really is.

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Post by x9200 » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:23 am

Ehem, Carbon-14? How? :)

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Re: how to determine an authentic porcelain vase?

Post by Barnsley » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:25 am

shiranaihito wrote:hi,

advise


:)
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Post by the lynx » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:25 am

Oops, I forgot that it is only for organic samples :P

Any suggestion x9200?

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Post by x9200 » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:31 am

It's simple. You drop it onto a granite floor from precisely 2.02 m height and if the sound frequency falls into the range 14,005-15,254Hz it is authentic. Below that - a fake.

(Thermoluminescence as far as I can see).

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Post by shiranaihito » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:03 pm

x9200 wrote:It's simple. You drop it onto a granite floor from precisely 2.02 m height and if the sound frequency falls into the range 14,005-15,254Hz it is authentic. Below that - a fake.

(Thermoluminescence as far as I can see).

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I mean when buying one, how to determine an authentic vase.. Will I be able to get one authentic vase from China_æµ·åÂ

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:10 pm

Nope, unless you have had a LOT of practice and research on the subject. Are you planning to hang it out on your pulley clothesline precisely where the feng shui master tells you to place it so it is in it's optimum position relative to the Earth Seal he placed for you earlier?
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Post by shiranaihito » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 1:07 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Nope, unless you have had a LOT of practice and research on the subject. Are you planning to hang it out on your pulley clothesline precisely where the feng shui master tells you to place it so it is in it's optimum position relative to the Earth Seal he placed for you earlier?
no no, its not related.

pulley clothes line is for my mum, while

porcelain vase is something that I intend to buy as a gift for my godpa :D

I'll be going to æµ·åÂ

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Re: how to determine an authentic porcelain vase?

Post by Mi Amigo » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 1:22 pm

shiranaihito wrote:hi,

advise


:)
If it were me, I'd start by asking the question in a less rude manner. But maybe I'm just old-fashioned.
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Post by offshoreoildude » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 1:53 pm

You can't buy anything without the risk of a scam in China. I'd buy one from a reputed Western dealer in NYC or London or Sotheby's.
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Post by taxico » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 2:52 pm

$3 yard sale bowl... auctioned for $2.2m!

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Post by zzm9980 » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 3:54 pm

offshoreoildude wrote:You can't buy anything without the risk of a scam in China. I'd buy one from a reputed Western dealer in NYC or London or Sotheby's.
Especially in a tourist area like Hainan.

If you go to Shanghai, I have a contact who can get you the highest quality shanzhai (山寨) goods. Let me know, I'll put you in touch!

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Post by JR8 » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 7:28 pm

To answer the original question.

To identify porcelain, ping the rim of the vase with your finger, striking it with your fingernail. It will give a sustained 'ring'. However, if you get more of a dull thud, it is likely:

- That the vase is cracked
- Or has been broken and repaired
- That is not porcelain, but regular and inferior china.

If you are asking to how age a vase, that is a total science in itself. And one I had an interest in long ago. My advice is to buy at a reputable auction house, where they are bound by how they describe an item in the catalogue, or a very reputable dealer who is not going to disappear any time soon.

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