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Rejected for Appeal of Long Term Visit Pass

Postby ALKF » Fri, 22 Mar 2013 5:24 pm

I and my husband have stay at Singpaore almost 11 years. We bought a house at Singapore on last year July.
We brought our child here on November last year & our both child are PR on last year also. Now i want to apply my mother Long term visit pass here as take care of my both children. They were take care by my mum since they are born. I don't have any sibling at my hometown & my mum already 60years old. I think to take care my mum at singapore & let her accompany her grandchild at the same time, that why i decide to buy a house at singapore. Now my mum application have been rejected & also be rejected for the appeal also.
What i can do for the next? To appeal again? Ask ICA why rejected my application for my mum? Any suggestion that I can have a strong reason to apply my mum long term visit pass? Please kindly help as her extension until next month only.
Thanks in advance!

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Postby beppi » Fri, 22 Mar 2013 6:35 pm

You need to earn above S$8000/month (basic salary) to be eligible for an LTVP for your parents/parents-in-law.
If you have that, call ICA and ask for advise what to do next.
If you earn less: Forget it!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 22 Mar 2013 8:30 pm

beppi,

I spent a good half an hour this afternoon trying to find an answer to this thread but never did. Where do you see the link? MOM does not allow Mom & Pop in laws since 1 Sept 2012 and then as noted only with income over $8 k/mo (but that is specifically for P1 pass holders, not PRs. PR are not under the jurisdiction of the MOM for LTVPs but under ICA and there is nothing there for LTVPs for Parents-in-Law at all.

So I'm am inclined to say that they are not allowed to bring in a Mother-in-Law at all (the Husband is the EP holder in this case and she wants to bring in HER mother. Don't think it's going to fly in any way, shape or form.

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Postby beppi » Fri, 22 Mar 2013 8:45 pm

O.k., you are right that my answer wasn't based on the regulations.
But I assumed (as other posters here have in recent discussions) that ICA sets the (unpublished) requirements for LTVP in a similar way as MoM. I'd be surprized (maybe I shouldn't?) if they rule out LTVP for PR's parents altogether - and force LTVP-holding parents of a P1-holder to leave once he/she converts to PR?
If there were no such possibility at all, OP wouldn't have been able to apply (and appeal).

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 22 Mar 2013 8:51 pm

That or not approve PR until such time as the Parents leave Singapore. Easier that way as they don't have to answer why they are rejecting the PR. It's obvious that they are fed up with the "extended" family syndrome that certain ethnic groups keep trying to pull. So they are just pulling the rug out from under them, from what I can see.

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Postby beppi » Fri, 22 Mar 2013 9:06 pm

You probably know more here than me, so I have to believe it.
I still expect them to leave a back door open for special cases - a Nobel price winner coming to NUS will certainly have his parents waved through without problems.

So probably the correct answer to the OP is:
- If you earn below S$8000/month, forget it.
- If you earn above, it might be possible but will not be easy.

You agree?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:21 am

Yep. Parachuting in as a citizen perchance? :lol:

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Postby ALKF » Sun, 24 Mar 2013 6:00 pm

Hi thanks for u all advice. So mean if my husband not earn more than $8000 then He cannot apply long term visit pass for his mum? Then what for we buy a house here to support Singapore government? Buy a house here then need to put my mum alone at hometown & take care herself? This is what I need to return to my parent?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 24 Mar 2013 6:09 pm

The government didn't ask you to buy a home for your parent. Also, you didn't ask the government FIRST if she could even come here for a long term before you applied for PR. Of course, you can always give up your PR and go back home. It won't hurt them a bit.

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Re: Appeal long term visit pass

Postby lolipop99 » Sun, 24 Mar 2013 6:39 pm

ALKF wrote:Hi thanks for u all advice. So mean if my husband not earn more than $8000 then He cannot apply long term visit pass for his mum? Then what for we buy a house here to support Singapore government? Buy a house here then need to put my mum alone at hometown & take care herself? This is what I need to return to my parent?


You have a choice to stay at home country instead of Singapore, immigration is a privilage, not a right. If you bring up with this argument to a local forum, expect to receive thousands of xenophobic comments. Singapore is no longer what it is 11 years ago when you came here, it is full now!

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 25 Mar 2013 8:09 am

And really, you buying a house here isn't really "helping" the government that much.

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Re: Appeal long term visit pass

Postby ecureilx » Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:40 am

lolipop99 wrote:You have a choice to stay at home country instead of Singapore, immigration is a privilage, not a right. If you bring up with this argument to a local forum, expect to receive thousands of xenophobic comments. Singapore is no longer what it is 11 years ago when you came here, it is full now!


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Postby offshoreoildude » Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:47 am

zzm9980 wrote:And really, you buying a house here isn't really "helping" the government that much.


It certainly doesn't help the PAP win votes.... (from the majority).
Now I'm called PNGMK

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Postby iloverice » Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:57 pm

OSOD, welcome back... :D

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Postby x9200 » Mon, 25 Mar 2013 4:58 pm

I am curious how they assess the long term collateral damage for this kind of approach here, but also in some other cases like no double citizenship allowed. The reasons are clear and understandable but then this kind of approach favours people with less respect to their parents or for the other case, those who have not too much scruples giving up their original citizenship probably translating to be less loyal. Later, with new and better opportunity they will do the same to Singapore. Do they really want to have such citizens? I guess this is all about choosing the lesser evil.


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