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Postby Wd40 » Fri, 07 Jun 2013 6:52 pm

Dont feel bad man. Its ok. Atleast you and your wife earn so well and have a condo here. Why do you need to uproot yourself? If you have a condo why do you need PR? PR guarantees no stability, I can assure you that, atleast at your salary levels, EP or PR doesnt make a difference, if you can get a job you can get the EP easily. Atleast until now, but in future too I dont see that changing. If an employer is forced to hire a PR/SC, they would rather move the job outside Singapore than hire a substandard local bozo, at those salary levels. If you were a lowly S Pass holder, then PR does give you that comfort zone, but not you.

So dont take the rejection to heart, its nothing wrong with you, per se, its something wrong with this country and you getting PR or not doesnt change that.

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Postby Westfield » Fri, 07 Jun 2013 7:47 pm

Well a lot of that is true and thanks for the kind words, but its not the total story. There are certain benefits PR does have over EP for us - the ability to start our own company being one. Can't do that on an EP. Also if one of us loses our job for whatever reason, I'd rather the whole family were not hanging off one EP. That does not exactly feel very secure for trying settle with a young family.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 07 Jun 2013 8:59 pm

Westfield, you are correct. Additionally, higher level EP are also at risk and I would be willing to bet the closer we get to 2016 the dicier it will get.

However, I will agree with WD40 in as much as I'd stay here as long as it's financially viable (e.g., making money much, much faster than you are spending it). Once it looks like it getting too tight, bail.

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Postby nakatago » Fri, 07 Jun 2013 9:10 pm

Westfield wrote:Well a lot of that is true and thanks for the kind words, but its not the total story. There are certain benefits PR does have over EP for us - the ability to start our own company being one. Can't do that on an EP. Also if one of us loses our job for whatever reason, I'd rather the whole family were not hanging off one EP. That does not exactly feel very secure for trying settle with a young family.


As the previous commenters have said, maybe you not getting PR is an indication that as much as you like Singapore, it's just not the right country for you. Would you want to live under such fickle policies? Heck; even those with PR are not safe as they always change REP renewal policies and the benefits of being PR.

So if you got your PR, you're only safe for another 5 years or less--your own company or not; indefinitely if you don't plan of ever crossing Singapore's borders. Or until the next policy change. You get the idea.

Take this opportunity to build up a most graceful exit. It's not you, it's them.

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Postby katbh » Fri, 07 Jun 2013 9:37 pm

nakatago wrote:
Westfield wrote:Well a lot of that is true and thanks for the kind words, but its not the total story. There are certain benefits PR does have over EP for us - the ability to start our own company being one. Can't do that on an EP. Also if one of us loses our job for whatever reason, I'd rather the whole family were not hanging off one EP. That does not exactly feel very secure for trying settle with a young family.


As the previous commenters have said, maybe you not getting PR is an indication that as much as you like Singapore, it's just not the right country for you. Would you want to live under such fickle policies? Heck; even those with PR are not safe as they always change REP renewal policies and the benefits of being PR.

So if you got your PR, you're only safe for another 5 years or less--your own company or not; indefinitely if you don't plan of ever crossing Singapore's borders. Or until the next policy change. You get the idea.

Take this opportunity to build up a most graceful exit. It's not you, it's them.

+1 Sad, but it is what the G'ment is doing. They want a Singapore core - like Switzerland.

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Postby akrapovic » Fri, 07 Jun 2013 10:35 pm

katbh wrote:
nakatago wrote:
Westfield wrote:Well a lot of that is true and thanks for the kind words, but its not the total story. There are certain benefits PR does have over EP for us - the ability to start our own company being one. Can't do that on an EP. Also if one of us loses our job for whatever reason, I'd rather the whole family were not hanging off one EP. That does not exactly feel very secure for trying settle with a young family.


As the previous commenters have said, maybe you not getting PR is an indication that as much as you like Singapore, it's just not the right country for you. Would you want to live under such fickle policies? Heck; even those with PR are not safe as they always change REP renewal policies and the benefits of being PR.

So if you got your PR, you're only safe for another 5 years or less--your own company or not; indefinitely if you don't plan of ever crossing Singapore's borders. Or until the next policy change. You get the idea.

Take this opportunity to build up a most graceful exit. It's not you, it's them.

+1 Sad, but it is what the G'ment is doing. They want a Singapore core - like Switzerland.


Can see that you're pretty upset since u post the same reply 3 times.. :D

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Postby sdkks » Sun, 09 Jun 2013 12:01 am

Maybe the reason is race. I have a Filipino neighbour at the same floor. They have a lot of strangers coming in and going out with their luggage, staying at his house. I heard they are bringing people for work here and making good money, too. I don't know if they are doing anything illegal though.

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Postby katbh » Sun, 09 Jun 2013 10:49 am

What does this generic anti Filipino post have to do with this thread?

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Postby sdkks » Sun, 09 Jun 2013 12:53 pm

Im not antifilipino im a foreigner myself. Im nt snitching on them but im certain there r complaints. I had my wedding at void deck. People called police on us when wedding was done and people were moving out tables n chairs. Just because of 20 mins noise. Around 9.30 pm. Some singaporeans are quite xenophobic and racist

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Postby ecureilx » Sun, 09 Jun 2013 1:37 pm

nakatago wrote:
Take this opportunity to build up a most graceful exit. It's not you, it's them.


And last week when I was in ICA, i over-heard a couple of guys, asking the process to make a graceful exit .. including how to let their kids stay here while they closed their CPF account etc ..

Yah, I guess some are leaving ..

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Postby katbh » Sun, 09 Jun 2013 6:21 pm

sdkks wrote:Im not antifilipino im a foreigner myself. Im nt snitching on them but im certain there r complaints. I had my wedding at void deck. People called police on us when wedding was done and people were moving out tables n chairs. Just because of 20 mins noise. Around 9.30 pm. Some singaporeans are quite xenophobic and racist


Sorry but you sound very racist here. Perhaps you may like to reconsider either your wording or your attitude. Many races post on this site and racism, or the implication of racism should be avoided.

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Postby sdkks » Sun, 09 Jun 2013 7:09 pm

do I need to write everything in extend just because someone emotional may get worked up? and why are you worked up?

there is a certain notoriety (witnessed in Sembawang) and xenophobic people are slamming the government for this at every chance. numbers for approved PRs being reduced every year, some races are being affected even more due to complaints.

if it was anything racist, mods would have deleted already. you can relax. unless you have special reasons not to.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 09 Jun 2013 7:23 pm

doesn't mean were are not watching, though.......

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Postby nakatago » Sun, 09 Jun 2013 7:40 pm

sdkks wrote:do I need to write everything in extend just because someone emotional may get worked up? and why are you worked up?


Because being in Singapore, sensitivity can have dire consequences (re: ISA).

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Postby yogaloungeforever » Sun, 09 Jun 2013 11:03 pm

sdkks wrote:do I need to write everything in extend just because someone emotional may get worked up? and why are you worked up?

why do you worry if others are worked up? :P

there is a certain notoriety (witnessed in Sembawang) and xenophobic people are slamming the government for this at every chance. numbers for approved PRs being reduced every year, some races are being affected even more due to complaints.

if it was anything racist, mods would have deleted already. you can relax. unless you have special reasons not to.
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