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Pr Application ~ Please advise ..

Post by ericteoh2010 » Wed, 13 Mar 2013 2:14 am

Hi All ,
Im Malaysian age 29 working at here about 2 yrs and 06 months.
Spass holder (sales line) , Annual is about roughly $50k the main problem is i dont have diploma cert (only O lvl) and i will submit together with my wife (Diploma) Malaysian also working at here about 2 yrs annual roughly about $21k (Accounting firm) . Any % can approve? What should i prepare ?
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Re: Pr Application ~ Please advise ..

Post by the lynx » Wed, 13 Mar 2013 8:35 am

ericteoh2010 wrote:Hi All ,
Im Malaysian age 29 working at here about 2 yrs and 06 months.
Spass holder (sales line) , Annual is about roughly $50k the main problem is i dont have diploma cert (only O lvl) and i will submit together with my wife (Diploma) Malaysian also working at here about 2 yrs annual roughly about $21k (Accounting firm) . Any % can approve? What should i prepare ?
Please advise ...
First and foremost, one important question. Is your annual pay basic (without factoring commission, allowance, etc)? The reason I am asking this is because you mentioned that you're in sales position.

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Post by ericteoh2010 » Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:03 am

Hi ,
My annual income include commission .. Basic just $1400

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:16 am

If your basic is only $1400, I'm afraid it's probably not going to fly, as the only thing the gahmen use for their calculations is the basic pay.

In fact, how are you able to hold an S pass if your basic is only $1400? Is your employer requiring you to kick-back? :o

The minimum for an S pass is $2000 or if you are still on an older S pass coming up for renewal, it would still be $1800/mo. Something is fishy.
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Post by ericteoh2010 » Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:37 am

My friend basic $1100 and plus commission is about $3k plus can get EP and now he become PR , just approved ..
At first I didn't think that I will get Spass , WP for 2yrs and company apply Spass for me . If this time cannot get I think will downgrade to WP again .. Haizzz

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Post by ericteoh2010 » Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:41 am

My Spass will expired this coming August 13 ,
Testimonial or recommendation letter from company will help ?

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Post by Barnsley » Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:14 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:If your basic is only $1400, I'm afraid it's probably not going to fly, as the only thing the gahmen use for their calculations is the basic pay.

In fact, how are you able to hold an S pass if your basic is only $1400? Is your employer requiring you to kick-back? :o

The minimum for an S pass is $2000 or if you are still on an older S pass coming up for renewal, it would still be $1800/mo. Something is fishy.
Singapore still needs folks doing the jobs that "Singaporeans don't want to do" therefore I do wonder if they use some rational in giving PR to some of the workers towards the lower end. In that its a 5 year visa and at the end of that if the situation changes they can just not renew the re-entry permit.

After all if they just dole out PR to the middle and upper folks are they not doing the jobs that "Singaporeans want to do".
Life is short, paddle harder!!

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 13 Mar 2013 1:08 pm

I still am worried that his applying for PR is going to get both him AND his employer in deep brown stuff as it sounds like he is working on a S pass with inflated income figures as his basic salary being reported to the MOM for the pass. If that comes to light in the PR applications (which will require documentation) I don't see a very good ending at all. I wish him good luck as I think he's going to need it.
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Post by ericteoh2010 » Wed, 13 Mar 2013 1:28 pm

I have paid 2 times income tax , both also $50k annual .
Company background also important ?

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Post by chitsu » Wed, 13 Mar 2013 2:29 pm

Pls give me a advise,

I am from Myanmar and working here since 2001, and currently i am S-Pass holder, monthly salary is $2500, i finished my studied in 2009 (Ngee Ann Polytechnic). i try to applied PR since 2009 and already 5times rejected, i was upset to apply again but if still have a change, when is the good time to approve, or please give me any suggestion what things still need to, whether i not enough salary or qualification to apply ...


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Post by the lynx » Wed, 13 Mar 2013 3:02 pm

Barnsley wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:If your basic is only $1400, I'm afraid it's probably not going to fly, as the only thing the gahmen use for their calculations is the basic pay.

In fact, how are you able to hold an S pass if your basic is only $1400? Is your employer requiring you to kick-back? :o

The minimum for an S pass is $2000 or if you are still on an older S pass coming up for renewal, it would still be $1800/mo. Something is fishy.
Singapore still needs folks doing the jobs that "Singaporeans don't want to do" therefore I do wonder if they use some rational in giving PR to some of the workers towards the lower end. In that its a 5 year visa and at the end of that if the situation changes they can just not renew the re-entry permit.

After all if they just dole out PR to the middle and upper folks are they not doing the jobs that "Singaporeans want to do".
Sales positions aren't "jobs that Singaporeans don't want to do"... :-|

Probably one of those companies that go cheap on FT?

Anyway to answer ericteoh2010 as simple as possible:

1. You can try to apply for PR. No guarantee. My personal opinion? Not likely, sorry.

2. How did you manage to get S Pass for $1.4k (and even got bumped up from WP)? Something feels fishy. I'm worried if you apply and submit your information like you mentioned, it will draw attention to this particular detail.

3. About your expiration this August, if your renewal gets rejected, your company must be able to justify why hiring you at that rate is beneficial to Singapore's manpower and economy in their appeal for you. Otherwise, it won't work.

4. One key point: You're Malaysian Chinese. Maybe there is some form of leeway. I'm not certain myself, to be honest.

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Post by taxico » Wed, 13 Mar 2013 5:02 pm

chitsu wrote:...i try to applied PR since 2009 and already 5times rejected, i was upset... please give me any suggestion...
:o

stop applying with such regularity, is my first piece of advice to you.

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Post by vishalgupta2 » Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:05 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:I still am worried that his applying for PR is going to get both him AND his employer in deep brown stuff as it sounds like he is working on a S pass with inflated income figures as his basic salary being reported to the MOM for the pass. If that comes to light in the PR applications (which will require documentation) I don't see a very good ending at all. I wish him good luck as I think he's going to need it.
I hope they get caught and both OP and his employer get into deep s**t. It's the frauds who create the great reputation immigrants have everywhere on the face of this lovely little planet earth.

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Re: PR Application

Post by the lynx » Thu, 14 Mar 2013 8:35 am

chitsu wrote:Pls give me a advise,

I am from Myanmar and working here since 2001, and currently i am S-Pass holder, monthly salary is $2500, i finished my studied in 2009 (Ngee Ann Polytechnic). i try to applied PR since 2009 and already 5times rejected, i was upset to apply again but if still have a change, when is the good time to approve, or please give me any suggestion what things still need to, whether i not enough salary or qualification to apply ...


Thanks

Chit Su
If you keep applying over and over without any significant change to your application, it is just a waste of your time and ICA's.

Wait until you get good salary increase or impressive educational qualifications etc before your next attempt.

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Yes ~ My PR Application Approved !

Post by ericteoh2010 » Tue, 25 Jun 2013 4:44 pm

Yes ~ my PR application APPROVED ! ~

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