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Post by iamsen » Thu, 28 Feb 2013 12:56 am

Typical Chinese mentality that has sadly infected every person on this island, we're allowed to criticise and whinge about our flaws, but you 'outsiders' are not.

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Post by JR8 » Thu, 28 Feb 2013 1:02 am

iamsen wrote:Typical Chinese mentality that has sadly infected every person on this island, we're allowed to criticise and whinge about our flaws, but you 'outsiders' are not.
The irony being that there weren't any Chinese in Singapore when Raffles and his pioneer-FTs first arrived. In fact it was these earliest FT's (Raffles etc) that facilitated the passage of the ancestors of these xenophobic whingers.

hehehe...

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Post by Wd40 » Thu, 28 Feb 2013 8:52 am

And talk about the quality of the FTs who came then. Here is a quote from wikipedia:

By 1827, the Chinese became the largest ethnic group in Singapore. They consisted of Peranakans, who were descendants of early Chinese settlers, and Chinese coolies who flocked to Singapore to escape the economic hardship in southern China due to the Opium Wars. Many arrived in Singapore as impoverished indentured laborers and they were predominantly males. The Malays were the second largest ethnic group until the 1860s and they worked as fishermen, craftsmen, or as wage earners while continued to live mostly in kampungs. By 1860, the Indians became the second largest ethnic group. They consisted of unskilled laborers, traders, and convicts who were sent to carry out public works projects such as clearing jungles and laying out roads. There were also Indian Sepoy troops garrisoned at Singapore by the British

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Singapore

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Post by zzm9980 » Thu, 28 Feb 2013 9:25 am

Wd40 wrote:And talk about the quality of the FTs who came then. Here is a quote from wikipedia:

By 1827, the Chinese became the largest ethnic group in Singapore. They consisted of Peranakans, who were descendants of early Chinese settlers, and Chinese coolies who flocked to Singapore to escape the economic hardship in southern China due to the Opium Wars. Many arrived in Singapore as impoverished indentured laborers and they were predominantly males. The Malays were the second largest ethnic group until the 1860s and they worked as fishermen, craftsmen, or as wage earners while continued to live mostly in kampungs. By 1860, the Indians became the second largest ethnic group. They consisted of unskilled laborers, traders, and convicts who were sent to carry out public works projects such as clearing jungles and laying out roads. There were also Indian Sepoy troops garrisoned at Singapore by the British

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Singapore
I know right? The original FT! hah. I have that article bookmarked. More than a few times i wanted to quote it in reply to some of the posts I've seen on Asia1 or TRE. I know that logic and citations would do nothing against those masses though...

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Post by nakatago » Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:25 am

JR8 wrote:
iamsen wrote:Typical Chinese mentality that has sadly infected every person on this island, we're allowed to criticise and whinge about our flaws, but you 'outsiders' are not.
The irony being that there weren't any Chinese in Singapore when Raffles and his pioneer-FTs first arrived. In fact it was these earliest FT's (Raffles etc) that facilitated the passage of the ancestors of these xenophobic whingers.

hehehe...
Awww, how cute. It's just like white Americans or white Australians/New Zealanders.
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Post by Sergei82 » Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:42 am

Since I was mention, I'll add a bit of my opinion: I do not talk about it with any Singaporeans (except my gf) and try to avoid talking about it online, otherwise conflicts are unavoidable. But the point about NS is valid in a sense that it is almost nothing in comparison with conditions people do their service in former USSR countries even now. The only frustration here is loss of 2 years from life.
Also "I am here because I have higher skills than any local here" <- this is insult, of course, cannot say that about the whole nation. I'd say that I am here because I have different skills than locals, and no locals that I know of are striving to achieve those skills now in any nearest futures. And anyway, I abandoned my plans of settling down in Singapore and most likely will be away after some time.

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Post by morenangpinay » Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:40 am

Mi Amigo wrote:The question in my mind is this: Which causes potentially more damage to Singapore's reputation abroad - the Russian guy's FB chat, or the endless vitriolic racial hatred voiced by numerous commenters on TRE? I would say the latter is far more damaging, and if companies are considering whether or not to set up (or continue operating) in this country, this could have an impact on their decision making process.

If these people carry on as they are, they might end up scaring away many of the companies who provide them (directly or indirectly) with employment, rental income, etc. Perhaps they'll be happy then? Poorer maybe, but at least they'll have 'their' country all to themselves, right?

well funny you mention that... if you read the few pages on TRE, there's another hate campaign this time its on a fastfood brand originating from the Philippines which is planning to open in Singapore. unfortunately, the lokals are up in arms against it because they were lead to believe the fastfood chain will only hire foreigners or Pinoys.
http://www.tremeritus.com/2013/02/22/jo ... residents/

The hate campaign generated a Boycott Jollibee facebook page and has crossed over to the Philippine media

Jollibee’s foray in the Singaporean market is facing resistance.

"The resistance appears to be a particular Singaporean dislike for seeing Filipino crew in the Singapore branch.

“Singaporeans are encouraged to boycott Jollibee Singapore to send a message that foreign businesses which hire foreigners first are not welcome in Singapore, and, businesses which targeted the Singaporean market share and profit off Singaporeans should prioritize job opportunities for Singaporeans first,â€Â

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Post by Mi Amigo » Thu, 28 Feb 2013 2:34 pm

Yeah, I saw that one too. The comments on TRE are just depressing; I don't think I'll bother visiting it much from now on. Seems that all all foreigners (regardless of race, country of origin, etc.) are 'trash' (or worse) in the eyes of so many Singaporeans, and not welcome here at all.

At least we now know where we really stand in the eyes of the public at large - the veneer of acceptance and tolerance has been well and truly peeled away.
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Post by zzm9980 » Thu, 28 Feb 2013 2:40 pm

The comments are hilarious:

"u want our business in singapore than you better give us jobs too"

Really? Are Singaporeans clamoring for burger flipping jobs paying what, 1200/month max?

"Anyway I will only support Singaporean owned companies..."

Lol. These people think Singaporean business owners are their fellow TRE posters?! Who the hell do they think puts the party they hate so much (Hell, who *is* the party they hate so much) in power?!

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Post by Barnsley » Thu, 28 Feb 2013 3:11 pm

zzm9980 wrote:The comments are hilarious:

"u want our business in singapore than you better give us jobs too"

Really? Are Singaporeans clamoring for burger flipping jobs paying what, 1200/month max?

"Anyway I will only support Singaporean owned companies..."

Lol. These people think Singaporean business owners are their fellow TRE posters?! Who the hell do they think puts the party they hate so much (Hell, who *is* the party they hate so much) in power?!
It really is a sad state of affairs ......... Although it appears to be just replicating what is going on around the world.

A few years of protectionism all round and if the past is anything to go by everyone will be looking back on the open markets as the golden days.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 28 Feb 2013 3:20 pm

3 or 4 years of protectionism would kill the little red dot if it were to be a world wild phenomena.
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Post by JR8 » Thu, 28 Feb 2013 6:01 pm

I'm surprised that TRE is getting away with facilitating/hosting this misinformed criticism of government business policy, and also for holding up such a 'negative face' of foreign business ventures in SG.

Or is it (akin to Desker Road) a sanctioned safety valve?

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