he is now a soldier and will come under the administration of the SAF. they're not gonna return him his civilian ID until he's finished NS.JJboy wrote:...upon turning 21, my son opted to serve NS. Thus he was recruited for National Service (NS) and had reported for training in camp in December last year at the age of 22 years old.
However, after 2 months of training my son does not wish to carry on. We are now looking at what are the avenue and or ways he can get out of NS legally.
you might want to check some other posts. short answer: no.JJboy wrote:...All our children are born in Singapore and are born Singaporean...
We had obtained Singapore IC for all our children when they turned 15 years old...
...Are there anyways my eldest son can get out of NS legally. He is willing to renounce Singapore citizenship...
AWOL/desertion. army prison (detention barracks) and maybe civilian imprisonment too. going to DB/prison this way extends your NS liability. so if he's caught and jailed for 6 months, he has to serve NS for 6 months longer.JJboy wrote:What is the penalty and consequences if he just return to Malaysia without informing anybody?
he has to serve NS before renouncing. as a regular joe, i think his elder brother's actions would have little bearing on him. look below for a little bit more info on MPs looking for deserters...JJboy wrote:How it would affect his younger brother, who will be 18 years old later this year?
He has not decided whether to renounce his Singapore citizenship or go for NS and renounce later. Thus, how far would it affect his status in choosing to renounce or go for NS...
having a singapore NRIC is a benefit, whether you use it or not.JJboy wrote:Is it possible for my youngest boy to study in college in Singapore as a Malaysian, after he was granted extension for NS pending renunciation at age 21? By coming in as a Malaysian student, he will be paying foreign student fee and not taking any benefit from the Singapore Government.
yes.JJboy wrote:What will happen to our girls’ status -
a. Do they have to elect to be Singapore citizen or Malaysian citizen when they reach 21 years old?
the family members of a deserter will be hounded for information leading to the arrest of the deserter. this may cause some inconvenience for your children.JJboy wrote:If they renounce Singapore citizenship, would they be allowed to apply for PR or Employment pass in Singapore years later?
yes.
Yes and if not, said deserter will never be able to step into Singapore without being arrested without changing identities. The Singapore is very rich as it invests in a lot of companies in Singapore and all over the world.JJboy wrote:Do they actually waste tax payer's money to arrest a deserter in a foreign country?
If he is already granted deferment till age 21, prior to coming to Singapore to study in uni, can they revoke that deferment and ask him to serve NS?JJboy wrote:
Is it possible for my youngest boy to study in college in Singapore as a Malaysian, after he was granted extension for NS pending renunciation at age 21? By coming in as a Malaysian student, he will be paying foreign student fee and not taking any benefit from the Singapore Government.
having a singapore NRIC is a benefit, whether you use it or not.
if by college you mean university, then he would not be allowed to complete uni studies in singapore until he serves at least 3-6 months of NS.
i'm sure the singapore government will know that he's studying in singapore and send him notices accordingly to enlist.
Mate, you are very naive . There are many ways to hauled you back especially if you are a white horse gone wrong or Minister's soniamsen wrote:Catch?
You mean the Aussies actually extradited him?
Or was he drugged and thrown in a sack?
There was a guy during my time, spent the first 5 years of his life in sg, the rest of it in Melbourne. He wanted to renounce but was told the only way to do so is to serve. His entire family had already emigrated over so he was here all by himself.
If we were to look at it from his point of view, he was living in a strange country with no friends or family, while being forced to serve in a foreign military. It was a really sad sight.
You want to bake and eat the cake by yourself ? Ain't gonna happen, buddyJJboy wrote:JJboy wrote:
If he is already granted deferment till age 21, prior to coming to Singapore to study in uni, can they revoke that deferment and ask him to serve NS?
Or would he get further deferment after reaching age 21 if he is studying outside Singapore, where he may require another 1 -2 years to complete his degree?
Let me give you an example.iamsen wrote:Not that it'll concern me for any longer, but please, do enlighten me on the various ways.Mad Scientist wrote:Mate, you are very naive . There are many ways to hauled you back especially if you are a white horse gone wrong or Minister's son
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