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Master tenant threating if sub - tenant leaves before tenure

Postby Rito » Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:20 pm

Hi All,
I would like to share my friends story and would look for some suggestion :
He moved into a common room in a condo - all well , agreement made for 12 months , subtenant can move out after 11 months .
Now , the other common room was taken up by another person , washroom to be shared . here starts the problem. The other person never kept the washroom clean , things became ugly when he was requested to clean it.
This was brought to the master tenants notice - who declined to help and asked to reslove on their own.
In the meantime Room A friend ( girl) came over , and she was allowed to stay in Room A with an increased rent amount - agreed with the master tenant . ( on mail / sms ) .
However, now a lady using the toilet - the issue became out of proportion - and eventually Room B occupant was asked to vacate - Room A friend took up the other room - Tenure started from July 2012 - till july 2013 - 11 after 11 months of stay one can give a months notice.
Room A requested the master tenant if he can stay at the room for another 4 months post end of tenure , so that both contract ends together to which the master tenant agreed ( ON MAIL - no New Contract ).
Now comes the twist :
Its feb 2013 - under some xyz reason room A occupant wishes to vacate giving a months notice from jan 2013.
Room B ( his friend ) too wished to move out ( forfeiting the security deposit ) - citing family movement .
However, now the master tenent did not agree to let go of Room B occupant , and if she vacates he cited taking legal actions , in shorting rude - threating ... all on mails . As of now she became scared of all these threating and decided to continue till june ( requsting the master tenant to let go one month )
For Room A , strange situation has come up - His legal term ends on Feb 2013 , however , because he had asked if he could stay for another 4 months post completion , which the master tenant agreed - the master tenants agent is citing - those conversations form a legal bond of TA , and his tenancy agreement is not yet over. what he means to say is - his tenancy is moved by 4 months more. Note - no formal rent agreement done . Simply the mail conversation where room A occupant requested and he agreed , dated back to july 2012.
Now , the master tenants agent is terming vacating of Room A as pre-break of contract , and sub tenant has to bring a replacement , at least for the 4 months.
Mail communications , all leading to threating of monetary compensation - legal action , breach of contract cited to be taken against this poor chap.
Reading the above , please suggest what best can be done - and if even this kind of provocation , threating can be legally dealt with.

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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:28 pm

I'm sorry but your post is so poorly written that I can't make head or tail of it can you kindly format it a bit ?
It sounds like a drunken ramble.

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Postby Rito » Sun, 17 Feb 2013 7:25 am

Apologies if you cant make out ... i will cut short the post :
Two commons rooms in a condo - washroom shared . One room taken by a couple , other by another person.
Problem arises in keeping common washroom clean.
Landlord asks other person to vacate , both rooms assigned to the couple .
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Two rooms A & B , Contract of A expires on feb 2013 , B expires on July 2013.
Couple decides to leave Room A due to some xyz reason. Keep Room B .
However , before having Room B there was a mail conversation where couple requested owner to extend contract of Room A , so that it ends with Room B. To which owner replied on mail , yes that will be done.
However , now that they have decided to leave it , owner`s agent terms it as a breach of contract , asks couple to get replacement. ( note - it was said he will, however no such agreement was done . Agent threating , the mail conversation stands as a legal TA . )
Hope i am clear now ...
Please help suggest .

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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:04 am

thanks a lot, that helped clear things up a lot :)

However , before having Room B there was a mail conversation where couple requested owner to extend contract of Room A , so that it ends with Room B. To which owner replied on mail , yes that will be done.


This appears to be the weak link here. Did this contract extension for Room A
Contract extension of A[ originally expiring on Feb 2013 ] to [ new expiry date on July 2013 ] ever take place as an official contract document?

Also,I believe the email will not help as it is not a form of legally binding document as the signed contract is.

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Postby Rito » Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:13 am

No. Not done in any legal papers. Only in a mail it was stated " yez it will be done". There was no further communication on that is done and ac epted by both parties. Does some writing on mail bind someone by a legal contract.

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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:30 am

Rito wrote:No. Not done in any legal papers. Only in a mail it was stated " yez it will be done". There was no further communication on that is done and ac epted by both parties. Does some writing on mail bind someone by a legal contract.


I don't believe it can be used to nail your friend down. However you have to play hardball with your owner regarding this.

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Postby Rito » Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:36 am

Logically , even i too think so .. but both of us being foreigners .. and knowing singapore laws r tough , wanted some advise .. for me , i can clearly see its a case of harrasment they r doing just to get money out of him ..
Is there anyone whom he can approach ?


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