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Postby Wd40 » Mon, 11 Feb 2013 6:38 pm

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Wd40 wrote:Wow! Thats a big number, I certainly didnt expect it to be that high, may be because I didnt observe too many during my interactions here.



Which just helps support the claim that India Indians refuse to assimilate with the locals. and tend to make little enclaves where they try to make little Indias of their own kind. Also noted previously by another poster regarding certain condo complexes being predominantly made up of Indian tenants. ;-)

Sorry Rev, but you left yourself wide open that time. :-D


Well, yeah I would say we haven't really assimilated much here. Its hard, considering my office and my team especially is full of Indians. I am not so much of a social person to make any friends outside of work, leave alone Indian friends. The only time we come in contact with locals is in the lift or in public transport. The only other forum I used to visit is the Singaporebikes forum which has given a bit of insight into the life of the locals, but otherwise not much.

Its also very easy to lead a life here like we lead in India, for eg, visiting Mustafa for shopping Indian groceries and dining in Indian restaurants etc.

There is a saying "You can remove an Indian out of India, but you cannot remove India from an Indian" :) This is particularly true in Singapore.

Maybe if our kids grow here they will assimilate a lot more with the locals than we would.
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Postby nakatago » Mon, 11 Feb 2013 7:02 pm

Wd40 wrote:There is a saying "You can remove an Indian out of India, but you cannot remove India from an Indian" :) This is particularly true in Singapore.


Anywhere in the world, from what I gather.

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Postby Wd40 » Mon, 11 Feb 2013 7:17 pm

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Wd40 wrote:There is a saying "You can remove an Indian out of India, but you cannot remove India from an Indian" :) This is particularly true in Singapore.


Anywhere in the world, from what I gather.


True. But its much easier in Singapore. For example, rice. Most of south east asia, china, japan etc eat the Thai variety of rice. We Indians eat the Ponni, Basmati etc. In Singapore you get this Ponni, Basmati even in FairPrice nowadays. But other countries even Hong Kong, its not that easy to get that variety of rice. So its very little compromise that we make here, except missing our relatives. Other countries, I would say there will be lot more compromises.

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 11 Feb 2013 7:50 pm

Wd40 wrote:Maybe if our kids grow here they will assimilate a lot more with the locals than we would.


Back to the original topic, I should add I've seen a surprising (to me at least) number of Indian Male/Chinese Female couples. Not nearly as many as caucasian/asian, but still a fair amount. Surprising due to both races stereotypes of being conservative, trying to stick to their own race for relationships, and Chinese being particularly racist against Indians.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 11 Feb 2013 9:06 pm

Funny enough, most of the pairings I saw 30 years ago, if any were the same type of pairings as well.

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Postby x9200 » Mon, 11 Feb 2013 9:17 pm

A bit back off topic: for Caucasian mixed couples there is a clear disproportion when it comes to the Caucasian men and women. I believe this would be still in place even if you normalize it (make it related to the total number of C. m and w) for the local population. What do you think is the reason?

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Postby Thatguy » Mon, 11 Feb 2013 9:33 pm

Wd40 wrote:
nakatago wrote:
Wd40 wrote:There is a saying "You can remove an Indian out of India, but you cannot remove India from an Indian" :) This is particularly true in Singapore.


Anywhere in the world, from what I gather.


True. But its much easier in Singapore. For example, rice. Most of south east asia, china, japan etc eat the Thai variety of rice. We Indians eat the Ponni, Basmati etc. In Singapore you get this Ponni, Basmati even in FairPrice nowadays. But other countries even Hong Kong, its not that easy to get that variety of rice. So its very little compromise that we make here, except missing our relatives. Other countries, I would say there will be lot more compromises.


Not sure if serious? China. Japan and Korea are Asian countries. We don't eat Thai rice in our neck of the woods.

Back to the OP, yes, in Singapore interracial couples are extremely common. I think they fall into two buckets:
1. Professional male and Singaporean/ other Asian professional femaies
2. Some white guy and non-local females

Don't want to generalise here. Anyways, it's very common. And don't worry about snide remarks. The hate goes both ways. Just live your lives and be happy. Singapore is a nice place.

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Postby Wd40 » Mon, 11 Feb 2013 9:34 pm

x9200 wrote:A bit back off topic: for Caucasian mixed couples there is a clear disproportion when it comes to the Caucasian men and women. I believe this would be still in place even if you normalize it (make it related to the total number of C. m and w) for the local population. What do you think is the reason?


Typically Caucasian single men come here as expats on work assignments and then find an Asian mate.

The number of Caucasian single women coming here on work is lesser and hence the reason?

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Postby Thatguy » Mon, 11 Feb 2013 9:36 pm

x9200 wrote:A bit back off topic: for Caucasian mixed couples there is a clear disproportion when it comes to the Caucasian men and women. I believe this would be still in place even if you normalize it (make it related to the total number of C. m and w) for the local population. What do you think is the reason?


I wonder who will take the bait?

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Postby x9200 » Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:19 pm

Wd40 wrote:
x9200 wrote:A bit back off topic: for Caucasian mixed couples there is a clear disproportion when it comes to the Caucasian men and women. I believe this would be still in place even if you normalize it (make it related to the total number of C. m and w) for the local population. What do you think is the reason?


Typically Caucasian single men come here as expats on work assignments and then find an Asian mate.

The number of Caucasian single women coming here on work is lesser and hence the reason?

This is what I called above "normalization". I think even factoring it in there is still rather large disproportion.

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Postby x9200 » Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:26 pm

Thatguy wrote:
x9200 wrote:A bit back off topic: for Caucasian mixed couples there is a clear disproportion when it comes to the Caucasian men and women. I believe this would be still in place even if you normalize it (make it related to the total number of C. m and w) for the local population. What do you think is the reason?


I wonder who will take the bait?

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:D yes, but there is one very good explanation that covers it all and not even touching anything too sensitive (i.e. money related). Besides, there could be really various reasons. For example, my wife (Caucasian) says she finds local men physically unattractive.

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Postby beenthere » Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:22 pm

I'm one - we're both recent expats here. I met my better half in grad school in the US and 20 odd years later we find ourselves in Singapore. She's Caucasian and I'm not. I am also not East Asian. I am on of those brown lot. I can't say I've noticed any particular negative reaction to our pairing (perhaps because neither of us are East Asian?).

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Postby bro75 » Tue, 12 Feb 2013 8:28 am

Thatguy wrote:
x9200 wrote:A bit back off topic: for Caucasian mixed couples there is a clear disproportion when it comes to the Caucasian men and women. I believe this would be still in place even if you normalize it (make it related to the total number of C. m and w) for the local population. What do you think is the reason?


I wonder who will take the bait?

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I will take the bait but the explanation is quite long.

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Postby zzm9980 » Tue, 12 Feb 2013 8:54 am

x9200 wrote: What do you think is the reason?


Short answer: Current western culture fetishizes the body types East/South East Asian females are genetically pre-disposed too.

How's that for taking the bait and not getting hooked in? I could give a much longer, much more politically incorrect (and fun) answer too if we want to move this thread to the leisure and joke forum.

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Postby Brah » Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:28 am

At the risk of falling for the bait as well will only half-agree with zzm - I said this years ago on this forum and will say it again.

For all the noise and uncomfortable fascination locals have about Westerners supposedly having "Yellow Fever", while some do have specific preferences for one kind of person or another, it all comes down to simple economics of supply and demand. If we were in Rio we'd be married to or dating Brazilians.

So sorry to burst that [adjective I can't quite find ATM] bubble for anyone who had that.

Me? I had almost as many Asian girlfriends as Caucasian ones when I lived in in the States. But that's an unfair comparison due to the large population and diversity there.

I would also disagree with him on another point - that although the body types that many Asians have are trim, compared with other Asian countries there are more chubby (and more than chubby, I don't want to sound mean or offensive) women in Singapore. I have not been everywhere but there's a wide (pun intended) gap between average body types of women here and their counterparts in Japan, Korea, Viet Nam, Thailand, and I'm sure other countries. I blame the food, though genetics also may play a role.

So while we're bursting bubbles, I'd even go as far to say (let the flames begin) that, if one can get over the current although skewed stereotype of American women being 'fatties' - that outside of the morbidly obese, they are comparable in ratio to here. Real-life case in point - everyone in my family, and the majority of my in-laws and friends in the States are trim or athletic and don't fit that stereotype.


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